Why should silencers and automatic firearms be illegal?

Question

I asked if they shouldn't be legal but alot if ignorant people had no good points, so thats what this question is for. So if you know nothing about guns and have nothing intelligent to say don't say anything because this question is not for you.


I worked for the C.I.A. for 5 years and have a class 3 permit for the rest of my life. I also legally have a fully automatic silenced AK-47 compliments of you tax payers, and its never been used for anything criminal. So dont make your point be that they're for assassination. So now that I'm a civilian whats the reason for me to not be able to keep it.

Remember idiots since your gonna answer anyway silencers dont make the gun anymore deadly

I know they are legal with a class 3 permit, I have one!

Just. M. one comment why should we only be able to defend ourselves inside our own homes? its much more dangerous on the street. For example the only time I had to use a gun inside the United States was on the street when crack head decided he wanted to try to rob me. He backed up when I pulled it on him, If I didn't have it he might have attacked me and ended up dead with a broken neck. But if I were untrained in martial arts It could have been me hurt

Example of the idiots who will answer anyway.

Number 1, you are in NO WAY a former CIA agent because your manner of talking is that of a 15 year old BOY and not an intelligent WELL EDUCATED MAN..... Number 2, even IF our government was stupid enough to hire a man who SOUNDS LIKE YOU, you would KNOW the answer to this question without even ASKING it. Oh and I'm NO idiot but YOU sound like one.... good NIGHT little boy..... I'm probably old enough to be your GRANDMOTHER and a former CIA agent would have respect for people and not call them idiots .... so you lose on a number of points here..

I KNOW THE ANSWER I JUST WANT TO HEAR OPINIONS. and ps we laugh and make fun of you civilians ALL OF THE TIME. sorry you senile old lady that you couldn't see how obvious that is.

There is also a big difference between an agent and an operative

Answer 1

First of all, sir, it is uncalled for to call someone an idiot simply because they believe something you do not. Your manners are typical of this graceless era.

As someone from a law enforcement family who broke the mould and went into medicine instead, I will point out the obvious: handguns and silencers are designed to be used against people and are practically always used in the commission of a crime.

I can hear you citing yourself as an exception, and that is exactly what you are. You are the one in a hundred persons who would not use a silencer inappropriately, and you should surely be professional enough to realize that.

The same goes for automatic weapons. I can track game, but I use a longbow. A rifle or shotgun is a fairly sporting weapon, and I can find no fault with them, but an AK-47 is literally overkill. They are designed for and, by a great majority, used against other human beings.

Whatever legitimate collectors may say their trophy guns can be stolen, or sold by their heirs to people who inevitably use them on other human beings. You know that.

You know that these things are, in actual fact, killing tools that fall into the wrong hands on an all too regular basis. You also know that not one in a hundred, probably a thousand average civilians can be trusted to care for and use a weapon as well as you can.

The few laws that actually restrict weapons ownership in this country are there because they are made with the huge majority in mind. If ninety-nine percent cannot be trusted with a weapon, the one percent who can suffer for the indiscipline of the many. The government cannot begin to monitor the few exceptions.

In my work I have built up an interesting collection of various diseases. I have six different strains of the bubonic plague. When I retire, should I be permitted to take them home with me?

I would treat them properly, build a proper containment area and observe immaculate sterile technique. I am an expert on their care and use, and can be trusted not use them inappropriately. Is it my fault that nobody else would?

Why should I not have my collection of disease cultures simply because they are dangerous in the wrong hands? Next thing you know they will be restricting access to fissionable material!

Oh, yes. They do.

The fact is, sir, that we are experts. Unfortunately the laws are written with the general public interest in mind. Get over it. When I retire from research I can take up skeet shooting, or maybe garden. My right to own bacterial cultures is not as great as the public right to life.

Answer 2

Ranb40, I don't know how to respond to your comment any other way except with my own post, so here goes: In my county in Florida (Manatee), the sheriff has repeatedly gone on record as being unwilling to sign any Form 4s. As a result, I've entertained the idea of incorporating for the purpose of purchasing a restricted firearm as a corporate asset and bypassing the CLEO signoff. But I was told that in that case, I would be opening myself up to an unwarranted search. Is the rule any different if the NFA firearm is a corporate asset, rather than a personal firearm? P.S. to answer the question, it's a pain but entirely possible to purchase either a full auto firearm or a suppressor, or both. Easier to purchase the supressor, because they still make them for purchase. Civilians can't purchase any select-fire weapon manufactured after 1986.

Answer 3

There are no reasons for silencers of automatic weapons to be illegal. That wouldn't stop the criminals anyway. Anyone can look into history and see what happens when weapons are banned. Hunting for food was NOT the primary purpose of the second amendment. Personal and national security WERE the primary purposes.....keeping the public servants in check, by any means necessary was also taken into consideration when the 2nd amendment was written.

Answer 4

Well, I'll answer your original question. Your tirade is too much....and I don't believe for a minute you were in the CIA or FBI or the Boy Scouts.

An assault weapon has no valid use anywhere other than the battlefield. It is used for killing people. No one needs to own a weapon like that unless he is in the military.

A silencer is used for only one thing; hiding the fact that a weapon is being used. There is no valid reason for hiding the use of a weapon other than criminal intent.

Answer 5

People read too much into the second amendmant. It was originally written in a day where people had to hunt for food. We no longer require this. It was also meant for us to protect ourselves and our property within our own domain. Too many people want automatic rifles to fit into the second amendmant. If you need an automatic weapon to shoot a deer, then you really can't call yourself a hunter. And too many people like taking their weapons outside of their homes (domains) because they feel it is their right to go whenever and wherever they want to go "shootin"". They disregard the safety of others almost entirely.


Well, I certainly appreciate you asking me that question in a civil manner....sometimes other people get so bent out of shape they say things disrespectfully, so I do appreciate that. Don't get me wrong. I looked into having a concealed weapons permit for Illinois. I'm a combat vet myself. State of Illinois does not allow a concealed weapons permit. Sometimes guns in the hands of the right person can save lives, but I can't see carrying an AK-47 down the street to protect yourself. Also, if you put a gun in the hand of every eligible person qualified to carry one, the murder rate will go up, courts will be flooded with trials of people proclaiming their innocence, saying "he drew first". When people have guns, even the sane individuals, they want to use them and a high percentage of them will. Whether it be over a disagreement, or over a drunken binge, or or because someone misinterpretted a situation. Some people would shoot for any reason too thinking the law covers them because they were acting in a heroic fashion. It's just all too much with handguns alone, but then you throw in automatic weapons and it gets even dirtier. That's my point.

Answer 6

Therer is no reason you shouldn't be able to keep it, but some Americans shouldn't be born with the right to be able to have a weapon like that. Automatic weapons should be an earned right otherwise every Joe Hunter/Gang Banger would have easy access to dads assult rifles to bring to school/streets/anywhere.

Not saying the legal variety is any less dangerous, but it is what it is.

As a veteran, I believe I should be able to own one if I wanted too.

Answer 7

Silencers aren't needed for self-defense. They're solely for murdering people quietly and without drawing any attention.

Automatic weapons aren't needed for self-defense, unless you plan on fighting off a gang of crazed ninjas. They're used solely for killing large groups of people. You may never use your AK-47, but you might sell it to someone who would, or it might be stolen. Why don't you get rid of it and buy yourself a nice little purse pistol instead?

Answer 8

Of your question you have one mistake, Automatic Weapons are not illegal. They are however separately licensed. As to silencers, I don't know why they are illegal, this law was enacted long before, I could fire a weapon.

Answer 9

So that criminals and authoritarian government can be better armed than law-abiding citizens ('the people')?

Only logical reason I can think of.

Answer 10

They shouldn't be illegal, refer to the 2nd amendment for proof.