Opponents of the death penalty, who is getting the unusual and unfair punishment?

Question

Two thugs walk up to a car stopped at a stop sign and drag the women driver out. They throw her to the ground. In the back seat is the women’s 15-month-old son, she tries to get her son out. The car jackers pull out and she is tangled in the seat belt, to get her off, they sideswipe fences and poles until she is finally knocked loose. She dies. They see the child and the passenger releases the seat and drops the seat and child both out the window of the speeding car, the child is rescued by a passing motorist who sees this happen. Found guilty they each get 20 to life in a air conditioned prison, with their workout room, basketball facility, paid healthcare, and dental. The have cable, and three meals a day. A system is set up where they can have free higher education, and a free legal system to pay for appeal after appeal, Worst case they can try for parole after 15 years. The lady’s father moves to another state, stating, how can it be fair for me through my income tax to pay for these two butchers upkeep and care, after they murdered my daughter and tried to kill my grandson. Now who is receiving the unfair treatment? This actually did occur I knew the man and his family.

Answer 1

The only thing about the death penalty that I don't like is that it is not carried out immediately.

Everyone should seek training in self-defense and the proper use of a gun. Then, they can kill the ****** ******* right on the spot.

As long as evil is allowed to exist in this world, individuals should learn to protect themselves.

Answer 2

The victims should be more concerned with piecing their lives back together than the punishments given to the murderers. I know that sounds hard, but it is the right thing to do. Do you think Jesus would have made sure that people who wronged him were punished to the fullest extent of the law? The murderers have already suffered enough if they can consciously decide to conduct their lives in that way.

I don't have a preference when it comes to the death penalty, either or is fine. I am against those that have been wrongly killed in this matter, and I've recently become aware that the death penalty actually costs more than life in prison. I'm an agnostic, so I believe that when you die, that's it. To me that seems like a lighter punishment than rotting in a nasty jail surrounded by bad people.

Answer 3

Well you ask a question and then give a story that makes people mad, your trying to get the answer you want out of them... However this is just one case, an extremely bad case, but just one case.
What should have happened is life in prison, w/o the chance of getting out.
The death penalty you seem to praise is far from flawless and has killed many innocent people. Even one innocent person being put to death is to many! It has taken years out of innocent peoples lives and caused them pain that will never be taken away!
For those that are guilty on deathrow it is no punishment to die! They want to die! The punishment is the time spent waiting to die... the time they think about what they have done and who they have hurt! These people should spend their lives in jail thinking about what they did!
People who commit minor crimes (not murder or anything like that) should be educated while they are in prison they should be taught a better way! their should be a rehabilitation program for them. They are coming back into my world and I want them to have the chance to do things right!
Not everyone on death row really committed the crimes they are there for. The system is not any where near perfect. The # of people the have been exonerated from death row is amazing... and the people that have been found innocent after they died is completely unacceptable (ex. Jesse Tafero)!

And FYI The cost of incarceration are expensive (about $25,000 per year per inmate), that amounts to $750,000 to $1,000,000 depending on whether a person lives 30 or 40 years after his or her sentencing. The death penalty, on the other hand, costs an additional $2 million per execution!

Answer 4

The problem isn't death penalty. It's lack of incentive to stay out of jail. With the cushy prisons, some immates are better off on the inside than outside.

Instead, we should re-institute the "chain gangs" and have them outside sweating in the sun working on community improvement projects. When they come back from a long day's work, they should be collapsing into their cells with no TV asking themselves why they EVER did what they did.

The money from the projects they complete can go back into funding the prison system.

Answer 5

(1) Where was this case? In a non-death penalty state, or in a death penalty state? If it was in a capital state, and no capital punishment was imposed, then there was a reason for it -- either a plea agreement or lack of evidence to go to trial.
(2) Prison is NOT FUN. Privileges are NOT as expansive as you say; you're constantly in fear for your life and safety; you're confined to a space usually less than 8x10 for most of your days. If the prison has cable it's for SECURITY reasons (i.e. convicts that have something to do are less likely to kill each other) than to coddle prisoners. I don't know what prison has air conditioning, provided that there's actually other forms of ventilation.
(3) We judge our society not on an equal footing with its worst (i.e. we're going to treat bad people as they HAVE treated others), because then that makes us a bad, vindictive, machivellian society. Instead, we treat those people humanely, while sending messages that this kind of behavior will not be acceptable in society. The government is not treating your friend's family "unfairly" by sparing the lives of her assailants.
(4) Taxes are a part of life. There are lots of programs that I don't want my taxes to go to, as I disagree with them politically or morally. Yet, I can't pull back the portion of my taxes that goes to nuclear weapons research and pay the portion that goes to education. Putting people away (or even to death) costs money.

I'm sorry for your friend's loss, but killing the assailants will not bring the woman back; taking away their rights to appeal will not make the country safer; and taking away cable TV in prison (IF, in fact, they have it) will not stop this from happening in the future.

Answer 6

Regardless of whether we're talking petty theft, murder, or "white collar crime", prisons should have two primary objectives: One, no one escapes; Two, cost the taxpayer as little as possible.

If I were in charge, it'd be barbed wire fences and a packet of seeds. Dig out a mud hut and grow your own food. If you don't like it, don't come back.

Answer 7

In the politically correct world that we now have to live in, the victim is always on the back burner, whilst the perpetrator receives help from all quarters.

It is time for the silent majority to make their presence felt, and only vote for politicians that have the bottle, to bring things back to an even keel.

Answer 8

You know what I feel really strongly about this topic. I say they should DIE!
I think it's ridiculous and cold hearted for anyone to look at that family and say that those two douche bags don't deserve to die. Until it happens to someone close to them they will never know what it feels like. Then they'll change their tune. When a crime so hideous as what you have described takes place, they should die - IMMEDIATELY. No waiting for 5 or 6 years. Nope. And furthermore, they should be tortured.
And I don't care what anyone has to say about that.

Answer 9

As you so eloquently point out, it is the victims who get the unusal and unfair punishment. Just like Judge Savage in Maryland who let that child molester go free. What a joke. I hope he moves in next to her grandchildren. It almost makes you want to bring back vigilantes!

Answer 10

that's insane. they should be put in a hole with bread and water for the rest of their life without possibility of parole. it's disgusting.

are you kidding me??? negative feedback? lol. case in point. as long as there's people like that, you're gonna get injustice.

eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. exodus 21:23-27