Erdoğan's party won the elections in Turkey, who doesn't the world understand that he's just an idiot

Question

and that he does NOT represent Turkey at all? Turkey is a modern SECULAR Republic, and that stupid islamic fundamentalist, not only doesn't represent Turkey, but he represent a scary threat to democracy and secularism instead! He pretends to be open-minded, western-oriented, and democratic, but the truth is he's just a snake trying to fool the world! He talks about defending secularism, but his real plan is to turn Turkey into an Islamic State. My Turkish brothers and sisters, those who are modern and educated, share my same fears, and so should the rest of the world too. Do you agree that the world media should stop presenting him as a good guy?

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Gallo: you haven't seen the negative impact, but we did. The image of Turkey was damaged: Erdoğan's wife wears a scarf! Everywhere in Tukey we see more and more scarved women everyday, mosques keep being built everywhere, prices are going up day by day, life got way more expensive here! This is NOT the secular country Atatürk founded anymore! Erdoğan will come out for what he really, my friend, just wait and see...

Jonh S : you're right. The point is that Turkey is a country where the majority is made of uneducated people from the coutryside, so, it was very easy for Erdoğan to win the elections. Some, among educated and secular Turks, believe that behind Erdoğan's victory there's is a plot of the USA....According to them, The US supported him, rooted for him, in order to appearently sjow a sort of opening towards the so-called moderate Islam, well knowing his real plans instead...Why would the US do so? So that when Erdoğan will show his true colors, the US will have the right to invade Turkey (like they did in Irak) and free the world from another Islamic tyrant. Sounds a bit like fanta-politics to me...yet, there are many Turks who believe that's just the case....All I know is that if Turkey will to decrease the Military Corps' power (like the EU is suggesting), nothing will stand in Erdoğan's way anymore, and that will be the end of our secular Republic.

As long as the Military Forces have the power to intervein against any attempt to eliminate secularism, Turkey is safe; that's what the EU should understand; it's not democracy, of course, but it's the only way not to go back to an Islamic State. That's why the media, the international ones, should help people understand how wrong the world is about Erdoğan, so that those who defend secularism in Turkey would be able to intervein and finally get rid of him once and for all.

Earthling: I'm glad to see you got my point; obviously I don't like the idea of a military intervention either, I was born in a democratic European country where democracy rules; however, as a Turkish citizen (I have a dual nationality), I can't ignore the fact that unfortunately the situation of Turkey is way too different from that of any European country. As sad and bad as it may sound, the army special power is the only chance Turkey has to survive as a secular country, at least until the day the level of education here will be high enough to guarantee a fair, modern, secular democratic system. If we leave Turkey in the hands of the majority now, taking away from the army the power to interfere, all our efforts to make our country a modern secular Republic will be vain. Democracy in Turkey will be possible only when the majority of our people will reach a sufficient level of education, which will take several years to achieve.

Leprechaun: I'm an educated modern Turk too and I DO LIVE in Turkey. Prices ARE going up, all the way my friend. Turkey 6 years ago was a much better place to live. There's no stability at all now, and , about democracy: as I said before, there cannot be any democracy here in Turkey as long as the majority of our people are just uneducated or brainwashed villagers. Democracy (where people decide and choose how to rule their own country) is possible OBLY in a country where people are capable of choosing for the best, and Turkey, unfortunately, is NOT such a place yet. We should first teach our own people how to think in a modern secular way , and get educated and THEN become a democratic country. I don't like a military regime either as I was born in a different country where democracy is a strong value and people are free to think, but Tukey is NOT ready for democracy yet.

Lime spontaneity: Islam is NOT my own religion as I'm Atheist and I've always been. Religion should be an INDIVIDUAL, PRIVATE matter, NOT a mass phoenomenon. Showing off one's creed is always wrong. That's what Atatürk meant by founding a secular republic: believe in whatever you like but KEEP IT OUT of social life! We want NO Islamic Republic, we want our modern secular Republic back!

Answer 1

nice to hear that a modern, intellectually independent, and a liberal person has posted a question which really should define church(mosque) from government/state.
Yes i agree that world media should stop promoting him as good guy... cuz a mullah is a mullah whether in a turban or in jeans

Answer 2

Truly, who gives a crap whether he represents Turkey or not? I have yet to see the negative impact his policies have had on the international scene: Turkey has not changed its relatively warm relations with Israel; it hasn't taken a different stance on Iraq or Al Qaeda, and it hasn't made any issues of religious consequence a real part of its foreign policy decision making process. And its not like he hasn't had time to undertake whatever he wants carte blanche; if it hasn't shown up yet, I doubt it ever will.

The only real issues Erdogan may prove detrimental to lie within the realm of domestic policy, and maybe that will wake up the clear, "silent majority" to vote against the AKP next time rather than sit it out. But that is a matter for the Turks themselves; with their strong tradition of secular nationalism and democratic rule, I am not concerned in the slightest for their continued welfare and prosperity.

Answer 3

Firstly, i'm an educated Turkish citizen and find myself modern. Living in this country since i was born.

I will comment here being neutral to everyone.

If we are talking about a democracy, majority chooses the party. Elections are done for that. You can't say "i'm not playing anymore,this doesn't count" because the majority think different than you.

I assume you don't live in Turkey. I do, and i know 7-8 years ago the prices were going up everyday but not anymore today.

Americas back-up means nothing to the people. If you ask people, 99% of people don't like America politics at all.

Turkey has changed and most of the people doesn't want army to interfere politics.It is a big conflict defending a democratic system and wanting the army get in the politics when you don't like 47% of the people's idea.That is dictatorism.

Edit: No offence but, calling 47% of this country "uneducated villagers" is being uneducated itself. Maybe not physically but mentally. Because thinking this country is not ready for the democracy because the majority think different,means "YOU" are not ready for democracy. With that mental education maybe you can learn what democracy is and to respect others' ideas.

I'm sorry if you consider my words insult,that's not my intention.

Answer 4

You're right. He's presented like he's the best for Turkey in foreign media. But we know better. I've discussed about this with my foreign friends. They all get their information from BBC or CNN. And they think that he's a democratic leader, but the truth is he's just sucking up to EU as he gets support from them. However, even looking at how he handled the presidential election in May, how he announced his candidate, how he leads his party, one can see that he's nothing but a dictator.

Media should be neutral about him. I don't know why they try to present him like he's a democracy angel.

But I have to add that I don't like the idea of military intervening.

Answer 5

Are you afraid of your own religion?
Scarf is what my religion tells me to wear,
And the mosque is where I feel my self completed!
We live in a Muslim country (yes Democratic but Muslim as well)
The thing that makes Erdogan not to deserve being a prime minister is not his wife's scarf!
He's stealing! He is buying her son ships with our money! he's wearing a swatch that costs thousand dollars. Those reasons must make us to hate him not his wife's scarf! Open your eyes!

Answer 6

If he is as you say, you won't have to worry about how the media presents him much longer because he'll show his true colors and further destabilize the region.

Answer 7

the world did not vote.the turks did.