Hey, um, the "hottest year on record" was 1998.... so, did global warming STOP?

Question

How long do we have to go without it being as hot as it was in 1998 before we start calling it global warmth, or, if it starts to cool down, before we start referring to global warming in the past tense?

No, neighbor, 2005 and 2006 were supposedly close, and might have been but for the El Nino in 1998 - - - I'm not sure how you just discount the El Nino though - - the heat in the region in question would have to come from somewhere else, or from a conversion of matter to energy - - - unless E doesn't equal MCsquared.

civil yes, we know that cherry picking is a Lib trait. For the last 1000 years they take a model that fails to pick up the late 20th century warming and that, no matter what data you plug into it, produces a declining slope, and they plug in only specific tree ring data that doesn't show the MWP - - - if you plug in all the available data you get a clear MWP.

But they don't want the MWP to have happened so they use only the data that doesn't make it show up in the model.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/04/news/climate.php

Even the New York Times references 1998 as being the warmest - - - they think 2007 will be even warmer, not sure where they're getting that from, for every hot Seattle there's a cool Boston.... 100 degrees in Seattle in July makes headlines, 72 in Boston in July doesn't.

Point is it's still 1998.

Answer 1

Remember, in the 1970's, we were supposed to be heading into the next ice age. ;-)

Answer 2

Funny cause the early 90's were extremely cold.
We had a very cold winter in Phoenix this year, didn't hear that mentioned much either.
Solar radiation has a lot more to do with it than any other source. Oh, and natural gas flares in Nigeria.
Actually my fiance uncovered something extremely suspicious in the global warming plot that made me adamantly against it. He read Michael Crighton's book and decided to do some research himself. We were having a very cold winter here in Phoenix while friends back east were having a warmer than usual winter in the early part of the winter he started checking different parts of the country of weather.com site to see if there was a pattern to it, and then he started looking at different areas around the world. They had recorded these really weird and Obvioulsy fake temps in many far northern cities. Like 100 degrees F in Inverness Scotland in January for only 2 days during January. While other cities near it where normal temperatures. And we had never heard of Inverness have 100 even in the summer. When he kept checking many far northern cities, a couple of days during the month of January had been altered in some cities, while ones like 10 or 20 miles away had normal weather patterns. Small cities in Denmark are not 117 in January.
These sites only show the exact temps for a month of 2 and this is an American site not a European one, so most people would not be looking in the places he did.
From this we could clearly see that someone was "doctoring" certain northern cities by the artic circle enough to change the monthly average. When we went back a couple of months later the data is no longer shown by day, just the averages for the month.

After finding this with our own eyes, I became adamantly against the fake global warming scam and started going online and on YA to check it out.
I should add that I am a vegetarian and love animals and the earth and all that, but I can't stand fakes or lies or global scams to make money off fake carbon credits.
Made me glad to be a conservative.

Answer 3

That's fine, but how is the trend going? Let me put it this way, if you removed 1998, would the years after still be going up from previous years, or down?

1998 may have just been a very unusual spike. However if after 1998, the following years are trending down, then you've got something to argue about. If they are continuing to trend up, then 1998 is just an anomaly.

Look, I'm not a big man made global warming supporter, but I do believe in intellectual honesty. Is the world getting hotter? So far I have to say yes. Am I convinced it's due to man? Of that I'm not sure. In the last 1,000 years, the world's climate has gotten hotter than now, and much cooler than now, before man had much of an impact.

Answer 4

You are very right! However, it does not matter to liberals like Al Gore whether you are or not. It matters to him whether or not he can scare the crap out of you and have you support all of his causes in which he gets paid from! It is a matter of control to him and how he can get the government to control you as well. They have even gone as far as to blame people who smoke cigarettes in part for global warming. Notice how they call everything a crisis? We have an enviromental crisis, a health care crisis, an oil crisis, a rascism crisis, a poor crisis, a obesity crisis, and so on. But ever notice how things that are really important are not a crisis? Things like terrorism, government control, for instance. In order to get the public's attention and money and control over them, they place the word crisis on everything they try to promote. Then they bill it as though they give a crap about you and how they want to help you! I am proud to say that I do not buy into any of it! I am willing to fight them every chance I get and take this country back to it's fundamental and isolationist roots! I do not believe in global warming and I do not believe we are in any state of crisis except for the crisis in which we as a country are losing our way! Now that is a real crisis!

Answer 5

I think you miss the point. The situation isn't simply 'global warming', but 'climate change'. This means that ocean currents and wind patterns are changing in addition to a degree of 'warming'. Oddly, it doesn't take a lot of 'warming' to induce a feedback situation that produces more greenhouse gasses. For instance, there's a band of frozen tundra that circles the artic and sub artic part of the northern hemisphere. This tundra, when it melts, releases large amounts of CO2 and menthane gas. If only a few miles north of the southernmost part of this band gets above 32 degrees f. a massive amount of gas is released adding to the greenhouse effect. This new heat ing results in more melting and so on. Melting ice caps result in less incoming solar radiation being reflected and more absorbed...and so on. Warmer water expands as well raising sea levels. There's a lot of science here and it's easy to just say 'global warming'.....there's a lot more to it.

Answer 6

The same people screaming "Global Warming" also believe in EVOLUTION. That mysterious entity that there is no evidence for, yet they just "believe" it must have happen that way. These people will never admit that the evidence for global warming is nearly as scarce as that for evolution. So they hold on to it. Even if unexpected cooler temperatures persists for two or three decades, they'll still blame human beings for the state of the climate. These people are earth worshipers at heart and care very little about mankind- other than themselves and their own "intellect". Pay 'em not mind, hopefully they'll go the way of the dinosaur. The political "climate" will become inconducive to their survival and their irrational rants will become fainter, then one day...silence.

Answer 7

What the Global Warming Nay-Sayers forget is the only sign of sign of only the temperature.

It is :

Extreme Unusual Temperatures. This could be much hotter or cooler than normal.

More severe hurricanes, more often. Ask FL, AL, MI!

Droughts/Fires Ask FL, CA!

More Flooding

More Twisters

Basically more extreme weather.

Just remember the best advice we can use to control our emissions and corporate pollution is.....

"It's Not NICE to Mess With Mother Nature!"

She gets even!

Answer 8

Any scientific data that doesn't support Algors position on global warming must be part of some alien conspiracy theory. How could the man who invented this sacred neighborhood we call the Internet be wrong. He made a movie and said stuff, if it was in a movie it must be true.

Answer 9

The Global Warming trend is documented over about a 50 year period, with declining temperatures in some of those 50 years, most notably in the 70s, when envirnomentalists were alarmed about the possibility of Global Cooling. So, I'd guess a good 50 years or so would be convincing...

Answer 10

Where are you getting your information from?

In 2006, average temperatures nationwide in 2006 were 2.2 degrees Fahrenheit higher than the mean temperatures nationwide for the 20th century. Seven months in 2006 were much warmer than average, and that last month was the fourth-warmest December on record.

Answer 11

Why is concern for the environment and measuring the effects of industrialization politicized by some on the right?

Reason: If it doesnt make the right any money it is a "far left" idea. But everyone should be alert of changes in our atmosphere and climate.

Without it there would BE no industrialization.