Do you think immigration is a double blade sword ?

Question

I use to get so upset about all the illegal mexicans running across the border into the usa ..Iuse toactually throw potato chips at the telly and cuss it ...I watched a documentary on illegals called " ******* " it literally made me cry..at 1 st i was hoping they wouldnt get across the border , then it showed how poor they were in mexico and how they were beat up and robbed by the gangs a police and who there children were abused and how they risked there lives getting over here for the sake of there children and it made me so sad , i then was hoping they would make it across the border ..they jump trains to get here and the mexican renagdes , and gang members kill them and beat them on the train for money ...so they risk there lives to come here .it was truly sad and heart breaking..what is your thoughts on this ???

Answer 1

This may be a long answer, but it will be one of few answers I've given that come completely from the heart....
I honestly never paid any attention to illegal immigrants for a long time..Sure, I've heard people complain about them constantly for most of my life, but it never affected me and I have no issues with any race whatsoever. The only negative encounters I have ever had with Mexicans have been the couple of times one of them has mistakenly assumed I don't understand any Spanish and said something pretty sexual about me right in front of me...but, even that is no big deal because I've had English speaking men do the same thing KNOWING I understood them. I've also had many good encounters with Mexican people, so I never concerned myself with forming an opinion on immigration one way or the other.
When I started a new job after having my baby, there was a lot of Mexican staff where I worked. Because I knew a little bit of Spanish, I was occasionally asked to communicate with them, as there is not always a Spanish speaking person on staff during the shift I work. There was one guy who kind of hung around more than others, which eventually led to talking (he spoke some English already), which later led to being friends, then dating. Long story there, won't go into it.
Anyways, we got to talking about immigration issues one day, and he told me that although he was here legally now, he had previously come here illegally when he couldn't get through all the legal stuff....When I asked him why people from Mexico come here illegally, the stories he told me literally broke my heart. I actually felt guilty, because I never realized, having been in America all my life, what true suffering is in a country that beats it's citizens down so much. I won't go into all the horrible things I learned about in that conversation, but even just the starvation, the absolute poverty, the lack of any way to do anything about it, the people who can either watch their children starve and die of completely curable health issues because there is no medical care, or risk their lives coming here illegally to possibly be able to provide for their families...that alone was enough to make me think long and hard how good we really have it, and why someone would risk coming here illegally if they couldn't get here legally.
My boyfriend is the same age as me, 29 years old. He has worked in construction since he was 12 years old, he's raised other family members children since he was 14 years old because they died for lack of medical care, he's seen friends and family members beaten, raped, and even killed by police or coyotes or drug dealers or gangs you name it, he's been through bouts of starvation as a child, he's been without clothes, shoes, food, medical care many times as a child into adulthood, he's had his own child die due to lack of medical care, he's fought and earned the right to go to school (which is not readily available to everyone there like it is here), he's been a soldier, he's done anything and everything within and even above and beyond what any human should have to do to take care of their family members....And despite all these things (which would send a lot of Americans I know into therapy for the rest of their lives at the very least), he is still a strong, stable, and positive person, probably moreso than anyone else I have ever known.
We are the same age, but he is so much older than me, if anyone understand what I mean....I have gotten sad about my own life many times before, but I have never even imagined suffering the way he and so many others have. I'm not saying we all need to just shut up about illegal immigration and appreciate how good we have it...What I am saying is that we need to consider why people come here illegally...It isn't easy nor is it inexpensive to come here legally. And we also need to realize that, although the gang members and drug dealers the media focuses on are present as well, not all Mexicans who come here are like that...Many of them are good, honest, hardworking people who just want to do what they can to help end the suffering of their families back in a country that doesn't care if they live or die. And we as a country need to either stand up and do what we can to make it easier for people from all oppressed countries to come here and live a life of legal citizenship, or our government and maybe several other governments need to band together and try to force some changes on these corrupt governments whose people don't have any choice but to come here to escape the horrors of their own country, whether legally or illegally.
Sorry to go on for so long, but this is something I feel very strongly about, there are basic human rights, basic respect for human life, so many issues at hand that are not being upheld in several parts of the world, not just Mexico...And yet we as Americans sit back and criticize them simply because we apparently have nothing better to do than complain, never once considering that many people from other countries don't even have time to sit around and complain because they are too busy trying to survive, and trying to help their families survive....Maybe we should try focusing our energy on the well being of our own families, rather than sitting around complaining about people who we don't even know? And one final thing I hear a lot of complaints about...No, I don't agree that anyone should come here illegally and try to demand benefits they aren't entitled to without citizenship...However, why is our country dumb enough to hand these benefits out to people who aren't citizens, then Americans turn around and blame the illegal immigrants for this? Hello, they didn't hand the benefits to themselves, good old Americans did it KNOWING they weren't citizens, and I know this for an absolute fact because you pretty much have to hand over your firstborn child to get any kind of state benefits...obviously they are asking these people for the same things, which of course they do not have. Why not place the fault where it really goes?

Answer 2

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

We who insist on upholding the law are, with few exceptions, among those most aware of that suffering! We DO care and that is WHY we know that the laws must be upheld.

Ekyellen is well-spoken (if a bit long-winded) and I couldn't agree more. We suffer far less than people in many countries. Why? Because this has long been a nation of laws and, until recently, those laws served the people who voted for them.

Ekyellen is also 100% correct in pointing out that the illegals are NOT handing the goodies out to themselves. But, we (the citizens) never agreed to spending our own emergency cash on people from a nation as rich as Mexico and others.

We were robbed. And that thievery can be attributed to a terror organization with a much broader record of destruction against the United States than al qaeda ...the U.S. Supreme court. (see Plyler v Doe, below)

But the only hope of humanity is reversing this anti-law behemoth. If corporations are raping us, stand up and fight. Honestly, we're not doing anything about it.

If former colonies of Spain are impoverished, the last thing those people should do is leave. Fight it! Fix it! Then stay and protect it!

In the long-run, it's just silly to argue against established wisdom. There really is no free lunch. Good fences really DO make good neighbors. And friendly, jovial, resilient neighbors at that.

The heartbreaking stories need to end. Running away from the problem will just guarantee that they'll continue.


Plyler v. Doe

In 1982, the high court interpreted an amendment as having exactly the opposite meaning as was intended. The 1866 -1868 debates over the 14th amendment were recorded verbatim and that record is crystal clear. It was NOT to apply to children born to aliens. In their Plyler decision, the justices just smirked and emptied their bladders on representative government.

That opened up a huge magical ATM with tax-payers money getting ripped from their paychecks and tossed into one end and a flurry of free money spitting out the other.

The result is clear: any determination that people might have had in Latin America to solve their own problems has been watered down or completely washed away. Why would anyone fight their own government when it's so easy to just go north and get it for free?

Our government proves it can do anything it chooses to us. Their governments suddenly face no threat of an overthrow. We all become 3rd world economies.

Seems almost too structured to be a coincidence, huh?




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Answer 3

Mexicans were once very similar in ideals and ideas to us, but what the hell happened? The people should get together, arm themselves and throw out their jerk off leaders and enforcers. This time emulate the neighbor to the north.

Answer 4

I want to teach you a word, Illegal! With all that you have said, the United States cannot house 20 millions illiterate
non-English speaking folk.

If they have abject poverty; they need to complain with their own government. We did not become properous overnight!

Answer 5

Immigration is a sad story for those who are treated like animals in order to have a good future in the US.

Answer 6

Get in line. File the paperwork.

Answer 7

That was sad, not all Americans are against them, me for example.