Canon Rebel XTI, or the Nikon D40?

Question

Canon Rebel XTI, or the Nikon D40?
Which is the better SLR camera? I surrently have the Canon Powershot S2 1S, and I love it. Any reviews, or comments on these cameras? [Canon Rebel XTI & Nikon D40]

Thanks!

Answer 1

I have already written a piece comparing the D40X and XTi, which are a bit closer in specifications. See if it is useful to you.

Nikon D40X vs. Canon Rebel XTi

You can go here to see a review. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/ The last page takes you to some sample images. See: http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/3896/camera-test-nikon-d40x.html for a glowing review that even compares it with the XTi just a little bit.

Open a copy of Internet Explorer (or the browser of your choice) and go to http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/ Open another copy and go to http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/ You can then scroll along the top and try to find some similar images to compare. Click on the file name below the image and you will get a new window that shows the image full-sized. Once it loads it will shrink to fit your screen, but you can click on the image to zoom to full-size. Hit [TAB]+[ALT] to toggle back and forth between the images and pick out hte differences. You can easily spend an hour doing this, but you are talkin gabout the best way to spend $1,000 for a camera and I think it is well worth your time.

These two are very similar as far as the subject, ISO, lens and other values:
Canon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_0006.jpg
Nikon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/originals/dsc_0199.jpg
I don't know what's up with the focus in the Canon sample, but try to overlook that as it's the photographer's decision where to focus.

The Canon might win in this next pair, but it's processed from a RAW image, so it's hard to compare.
Canon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_1206-raw-acr.jpg
Nikon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/originals/dsc_0229.jpg

See:
Canon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/canoneos400d_samples/originals/img_1201.jpg
Nikon: http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/gallery/nikond40x_samples/originals/dsc_0279-raw-acr.jpg

You get the idea. There are not too many that actually match up for comparison.

See this page for a side-by-side comparison:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/page20.asp

See this page for some controled side-by-side studio tests with jpeg images:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/page21.asp
and read the comments at the end of the page.

Here are some studio tests with RAW images that you can click to enlrage, just as before:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD40X/page23.asp

Here are some studio ISO comparisons:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD40X/page25.asp

The long and short of it is that Phil Askey at dpreview.com tested both cameras and called it a draw in image quality except high ISO sensitivity, where the Canon takes the slight edge. The Nikon was termed "quicker and more comfortable to use."

I still like the idea that the Nikon has a spot meter and find it odd that the Canon doesn't. The Nikon is a bit limited in autofocus capabilities and speed compared to the Canon, though.

Here are some pertinent quotes about the D40X:

"Noise suppression was generally better than the D80's and much better than the Rebel's. As ISOs increased, the D40x's resolution exceeded that of the Rebel."

"The economy-model status of the D40x doesn't show in picture quality, either. At ISO 100, the D40x turned in an average resolution of 2075 lines, slightly behind the Nikon D80 and Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi."

Continue on down on page 2 for a direct comparison to the XTi. I'll let you read it for yourself, as it seems to lean slightly towards the Canon and it would kill me to write that. I'll leave that job for Koko.

But seriously, these cameras are EXTREMELY close in performance and value. It is true that there is a "problem" with older Nikon lenses not autofocusing on the D40, but if you do not own a bag full of older lenses, it is not going to be a problem. I hate to see people slam the camera because it can't autofocus with older Nikon lenses. It is true that there is a "slight problem" with older Nikon lenses not autofocusing on the D40, but if you do not own a bag full of older lenses, it is not going to be a problem. It is barely a problem anyhow. If you check www.nikonusa.com for "AF-S" lenses, which are ALL 100% compatible with the D40, you will find 23 lenses, including 7 "VR" (vibration Reduction) lenses and one true macro lens with "VR". There are another 25-plus lenses in the current catalog that provide all functions except autofocus as well as many (possibly dozens) "out of print" lenses that will work just as well. In addition, although these lens will not autofocus, most of them will still give focus confirmation. From the D40 manual: "If the lens has a maximum aperture of f/5.6 of faster, the viewfinder focus indicator can be used to confirm whether the portion of the subject in the selected focus area is in focus. After positioning the subject in the active focus area, press the shutter release button halfway and rotate the lens focusing ring until the in-focus indicator is displayed." (See http://www.members.aol.com/swf08302/nikonafs.txt for a list of AF-S lenses.)

You need to go to a real camera store and pick up both cameras and see how they feel to you. Some people will love the Canon and some will love the Nikon. Find out which one you are. You will be happy with either one, but you will be happiest with the one that fits your hands better.

See also:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos400d%2Cnikon_d40x&show=all

B&H Prices, April 2007

Nikon D40x, 10.2 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Kit with Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor Lens - $800

Nikon D40x, 10.2 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Kit with Nikon 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor Lens - $1,030

Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi (a.k.a. 400D) 10.1 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Kit (Silver) with Canon 18-55mm EF-S Lens - $770

Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi (a.k.a. 400D) 10.1 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera Body (Black) with Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Autofocus Lens - $1,180

Answer 2

You should really be comparing the XTi to the newer D40X. They're in a very similar price range and have a similar host of features. They're both excellent values for the serious amateur photographer. You'll hear various reasons why people switch from Canon to Nikon, or vice versa. I switched to Nikon because it's program features just seemed to make more sense to me. Many Nikkor AF lenses have aperture rings on the lense itself, which makes them feel like the old manual lenses. Nikon has also used the 3D Matrix metering system in their bodies for quite a while, and it's always given me great exposures. I have already invested in Nikon film bodies, lenses, and so forth, and I'll be getting a Nikon D80 in a couple of weeks so I can use the lenses for both film and digital. After comparing the D40X to the D80, I found out that the D40X doesn't have a motor in the camera body itself to drive the autofocus in the lenses, so you have to buy the new DX lenses that have built in motors. The lenses I already own won't be compatible.. plus that just really limits my selections if were to shop for new lenses. The D80 is a little bigger-- it fits a little better in my hands; but when it comes down to it, I'll spend the extra $300 so I can continue using my older lenses.

Answer 3

get the Canon Rebel... if you love the S2 IS then you gonna love the REBEL even more. the pictures you take with the REBEL will make you feel like a real PRO. Canon's features are alot more simple to use and yet gives you that Proffessional feel, you'll never wanna use a point and shoot again. I actually switched from Nikon to CANON and I'm staying with Canon all the way. After my Rebel, I'm getting me the EOS 1D MARK III. the fastest camera and the best in the world. sorry NIKON, CANON RULEZ!!!

Answer 4

Canon Rebel XTi! The Rebel is amazing. The pictures it takes are so clear and crisp. Plus, Canon makes the best cameras. I wish I had it.

But the D40 is waaay cheaper.

Answer 5

I have a Digital Rebel XTi and I love it! I have never used the Nikon D40 though.

I suggest that you should go to http://dpreview.com and look at the reviews and sample photographs from both cameras.

Answer 6

canon xti is superior to D40 in all aspect in picture taking. I have both cameras and I can see the difference

Answer 7

I was looking for Sigma lenses (they are cheaper then Nikkor) for Nikon D40x and I was very impressed by their prices. It’s begin from $430 and run to many thousands. I think it’s not so clever to save $200 buying D40x instead D80 and then for wasting much more for lenses. For more look through my article: ‘$1000 Sigma lenses for Nikon D40x or NikonD80’ at http://fototramp.blogspot.com/2007/07/1000-sigma-lenses-for-nikon-d40x-or.html In my opinion it’s good to compare Canon XTi only with D80. Sorry for my choice – the Sony A100 but I prefer it.

Answer 8

I would go for the Nikon D40x its pretty much the same price, 10.5mp and better build quality than the canon, with a far Superior choice of lenses as well. The lenses make the camera not the body.

Answer 9

The cameras are so similar, the tie-breaker needs to be "What line of lenses do you want? as you will spend much more on lenses in the long term.

If you prefer the Nikon lenses, or perhaps their menu system, then get going with the Nikon. And the same goes for the Canon.

Go pick them both up, play with their menus, and choose one!