Christians - Are you already saved or being saved?

Question

Consult your Bible on 1Cor 1:18. Are you already saved (past tense)? Or are you being saved (present tense)? They are not all the same. Which one is the genuine word of God.

The AV1611 says, "... unto us which are saved..." The word "being" is commonly inserted into the modern versions to be compliant with a popish system of sacraments. I was amazed how many people tried to "correct with the Greek" and how many raised the "work out your own salvation" verse, trying to make that a works based salvation.

Answer 1

Both. Salvation, being born of His Spirit & inheriting eternal life.

When we are born again, born of His Spirit, cleansed by His blood. All are sins are washed away. Our slate is cleaned. We are made the righteousness of Christ. Nothing we do or don't do will change that. God sees us as the righteousness of Christ. The old man is dead, His blood washes away our sins & the new spiritman in Christ alive forevermore. See, there is a spiritual birth. No longer a body, soul & dead/blind spirit. Now a newman; body, soul & spirit. This is everlasting life provided by the grace of God & not of works lest anyone boast.

1Cor1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishenss; but unto us who are saved it is the power of God.

So, this is how we get on the Rock of Salvation. But we build on the Rock foundation perishable or everlasting. What we build that is everlasting is according to the Word of God; we choose to die to lust of flesh (not reacting by cussing, yelling, etc...) but to make the soul choice to follow after the spirit; faith, hope, love, joy, peace, patience, honesty, truth, etc... The Holy Spirit wont force us. We have to chose to. Then when the Holy Spirit leads us to say something or do something in Christ, to trust & obey. Even if we are shaking in our boots. We are working out our salvation of our souls. So this is being saved daily and also saved from making wrong choices. And everlasting rewards.

Our house will be tested & the perishable works fried & the everlasting is rewards. But even if all the works are fried, person is still on the Rock of Salvation. So, goes to heaven. But for the person who built on the Rock of Salvation (Jesus Christ) wisely receives everlasting rewards & great is their rewards. And this is saving of our soul choices.

Answer 2

St Paul said to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. The idea that "once saved always saved" is no where in the bible. It is false doctrine.
Its calvinistic of the 15th century, 1500 years after Christ - clearly a false reformation teaching like "Sola Scriptura" and "Faith Alone." Man made inventions of the reformers. No where in Church history or in reading the bible as a whole do these things hold up.
Martin Luther deliberately scratched out in the Epistle of James "Faith without works is dead." Protestants know verses, but the don't know the bible as a whole.
You say in circles that if a person is seen to live a whole good life, then he is saved. If he is bad at some point, oh he was never saved. What a bunch of bunk. Jesus never said these invented protestant doctrines.
Come back home to the Catholic Church, the Church that Jesus established and the Church that has never left him.

Answer 3

: "As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."

Answer 4

That is an excellent question. I wholeheartedly believe that we are a project in the making. I once was relieved of sins from the past. I believed for many years that I was saved and that I would not go to hell. A while back here, I realized that the Lord is molding me into what He wants me to be. He is letting me use my free will to test me to see if I would do as He would do. It states in the Bible that God wants us to be of the image of the Lord. Everyday is a lesson that takes me further along my path toward salvation. I like living this way. I have the freedom to consider my decisions before I make them. And I'll tell ya what, sometimes it's awfully tempting not to choose the sinful way. But hey, I enjoy doing and saying and feeling like what I think God wants me to be. When He has something important to tell me or something that he wants me to do, He will tell me. Anyone who says God doesn't speak to you is saying that only because they refuse to listen. God Bless

Answer 5

Look at Ephesians 1:3ff You'll find Aorist tense verbs. Aorist indicates a completed action, so we see God "HAS BLESSED us with EVERY SPIRITUAL BLESSING IN THE HEAVENLY REALMS" as a COMPLETED ACTION.
What are those "SPIRITUAL BLESSINGS??"

As for 1Co 1:18, it is sozomenois, a present participle form. A rough English rendering would be "...to those he is saving, it is the power of God."

Answer 6

Study your Bible and you will find that you are saved present tense. Don't go taking a line of scripture out of context and try to make something different from God's word. There is one who does that and you don't want to be working for him.

Answer 7

no where does it mention "once saved always saved". Even the great St. Paul wasn't sure about his salvation. he tells us that we should work out our salvation w/ "fear and trembling".

"So, people who think they are standing firmly should be careful that they don't fall" I Cor. 10:12

"Rather, I toughen my body with punches and make it my slave so that I will not be disqualified after I have spread the Good News to others." I Cor. 9:27

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins" Hebrews 10:26

Answer 8

You are saved once you accept Christ. But Once you are saved you have make sure that you don't go down that same dirty path you took before accepting Christ.


Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—CONTINUE TO WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING - Philippians 2:12.

To work out your own salvation is to solve by means of going to the very source of our salvation, going into the Word to renew our hearts and minds and to come into His presence with "fear and trembling." The fear spoken here in NOT a fear of running from God, but a different type of fear, a "reverence". A fear of not knowing that causes us to seek God and His presence. "Trembling" refers to a shaking due to weakness, but this is also a weakness of higher purpose-a weakness that brings us to depend on God.

In our "fear and trembling" we come into His presence to know and understand His ways and thoughts. We come to know our Savior and in doing so we become like Him, bringing us peace and harmony

Answer 9

This passage is a contrast. Those who are perishing (an act). They are "in the process" of perishing. And, those who are being saved (an act); they are "in the process" of being saved.

God is in the process of saving. That's His business.

We are in the process of being saved. We are the recipient of His business. It is an act which happened at the moment we believed and continues forever.

Answer 10

Well that verse is basically saying "(people who are perishing) Atheists/non-believers think this is bull crap but (the ones who are being saved) Chrisitans(and I mean TRUE Christians) think it's freaking awesome!"

You are being saved...many think it's "once saved, always saved" but you can lose God's light and it is not that hard.