For Mormons & or former Mormons.?

Question

Do you believe in the Trinity Doctrine or not?
That Jesus was god in the flesh?
That Jehovah God, His Son & His active force
(the Holy Spirit) are 1 all wrapped together?
Co-equal?

I ask bc I read from a Mormon that they don't, then another said that they do.
Here 2 Y/A's.

yeah, I've heard about how they treat ppl w/ darker skin tones. Or @ least used to.
BUT that's not the Q.
Maybe that's where my mom was @ when I was a baby and she was asked to leave.???

thx achtung I know all about J's W's..
Agape!

Answer 1

The Mormons teach that God the Father is Elohim, Jehovah in the OT is Jesus in the NT. In a way they are saying that God the Father and Jesus are the same person without even knowing it (more like Twinity and a holy ghost). If the Bible is too confusing to understand, why not put it in human terms so humans can understand the difference between Jehovah God (Father), Jesus (the Son of God), and Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost)?

God the Father = Human Father
Jesus Christ = Human Father's 1st Son
Holy Ghost = Human Father's Wealth (Money)

If the Mormans have not yet revised their doctrines, they still believe that God the Father was once human flesh and bone.

The Bible and Mormon Writings—A Study in Contrasts


Bible: Although the exact site is unknown, the Garden of Eden was probably in the Mesopotamian region by the Euphrates River.—Genesis 2:11-14.
Doctrine and Covenants: Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri, U.S.A.—Doctrine and Covenants 57, as explained by President J. F. Smith.

Bible: The soul dies.—Ezekiel 18:4; Acts 3:23.
The Book of Mormon: “The soul could never die.”—Alma 42:9.

Bible: Jesus was born in Bethlehem.—Matthew 2:1-6.
The Book of Mormon: Jesus was to be born in Jerusalem.—Alma 7:10.

Bible: Jesus was begotten by holy spirit.—Matthew 1:20.
Journal of Discourses: Jesus was not begotten by holy spirit. He was begotten in the flesh by Adam’s having intercourse with Mary.—Journal of Discourses, Volume I, pages 50-1.

Bible: New Jerusalem to be in heaven.—Revelation 21:2.
The Book of Mormon: New Jerusalem, earthly, to be built by men in Missouri, U.S.A.—3 Nephi 21:23, 24; Doctrine and Covenants 84:3, 4.

Bible: Writers of the Bible were inspired to write God’s thoughts.—2 Peter 1:20, 21.
The Book of Mormon: Its prophets are said to have written according to their own knowledge.—1 Nephi 1:2, 3; Jacob 7:26.

Answer 2

God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost make up the Godhead.

UNITED in ONE purpose, but are three distinct personages. They are not wrapped up together physically, only in purpose. Which is no small thing. Think about how many of us mortal human are united in purpose. It's almost non-existent.

Not coequal---"For my Father is greater than I" --John 14:28

"But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God"--Acts 7:55-56

How could Jesus be standing on the right hand of God if He was God the Father himself?

Jesus' baptism -- "And straightaway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit, like a dove, descending upon him: and there came a voice from heaven saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Mark 1:10-11

Again, how could this be one person? Is Christ a ventriloquist, who purposely trying to confuse or deceive us? No. Three distinct personages, with ONE purpose. I don't know how much plainer it can get.

The doctrine of the trinity is false. I don't understand why some Christians insist and saying it is true, while simultaneously calling others who don't believe it heretics. It's right there in the Bible, plain and simple, yet does require a little bit thought. There no way God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are ONE PERSON all wrapped together. It's logically impossible, and there are several more examples of the Bible to show it.

God wants us to know His truth, NOT confuse us.

There was once a time in the history of the world when those who declared the theory that the Sun was the center of the solar system, and that the Earth was not the center of the universe were declared heretics and put to death. Were they wrong?

Answer 3

We believe in God, the Eternal Father and in His son, Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost.

1st. Article of Faith- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

No we don't believe in the Trinity. We believe that God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three distinctive beings, united in Purpose. There is plenty of biblical evidence to back this up. Several times during His last days on Earth, the Savior makes appeals to his father.
on the cross He says "Father, Forgive them, they know not what they do".

In the garden he asks the Father to let this cup pass from Him, but "not My will, but Thine be done"

ON the Cross, "Father why hast thou forsaken me?"

When he is baptized the Holy ghost descends in the form of a dove and the Father announces "behold, my Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"

If they were one person none of these statements would make any sense. Why would he appeal to the Father if he were the Father?

All of these quotes come from the Gospels in the KJV Bible. Sorry I did not have time to look them up but most come from Matthew and Mark.

We do believe that Jesus was Divine. He is the Son of God the Father and Mary in the Flesh. We have never disputed his divinity. We believe that he is the ONLY begotten of the Father in the Flesh.

I tell you this because others will make claims about what we do and do not believe.

All of this information can be verified at:
www.Mormon.Org
www.LDS.org

Official websites of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The first was set up as a tool for people investigating the church, the latter as a tool and resource for Members, but has information that investigators can use as well.

Answer 4

Mormons believe in father, son and spirit being three seperate things... they do not believe the standard christian "all wrapped up in one" trinity.

Example: Christ being baptized, god says here is my son in whom I am pleased, and spirit appears in the form of a dove... three seperate beings, per their interpretation of KJV NT.

Answer 5

The only observation that a non-Mormon might make regarding this question is simply to acknowledge that Mormons themselves claim to be nontrinitarian Christians; that is, they believe that Jesus the Son is a distinct person from God the Father. However, Mormons do not believe that the "God" of the so-called "New Testament" is the same "God" of the so-called "Old Testament"; Mormonism teaches that the pre-human Jesus is the "God" or "Jehovah" of the so-called "Old Testament".

This is obviously a fundamentally different theology than the other great nontrinitarian Christian religion, Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses believe the bible to teach that there are several references to Jesus in the so-called "Old Testament" which indicate that he is distinct from the "God" or "Jehovah" of the so-called "Old Testament". It is not enough to simply assert that a doctrine is true, and so Jehovah's Witnesses reason from the Scriptures on the matter...


It seems rather obvious that the apostle Luke at Acts 4:25-27 quotes from Psalms 2:1,2. Although these passages are part of the Christian and Hebrew Scriptures respectively, BOTH passages make it plain that there is an "anointed one" who is distinct from God. The Psalm plains calls that God by the name "Jehovah" (explicitly using the Tetragrammaton) and Acts plainly calls the anointed one by the name "Jesus".

(Psalm 2:1,2) [David wrote] Why have the nations been in tumult and the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing? 2 The kings of earth take their stand And high officials themselves have massed together as one against Jehovah and against his anointed one

(Acts 4:24-27) [Peter, John, and fellow Christians] with one accord raised their voices to God and said: “Sovereign Lord, you are the One who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all the things in them, 25 and who through holy spirit said by the mouth of our forefather David, your servant, ‘Why did nations become tumultuous and peoples meditate upon empty things? 26 The kings of the earth took their stand and the rulers massed together as one against Jehovah and against his anointed one.’ 27 Even so, both Herod and Pontius Pilate with men of nations and with peoples of Israel were in actuality gathered together in this city against your holy servant Jesus


Similarly, the apostle Paul at 1 Cor 2:16 and Rom 11:33,34 paraphrases Isaiah 40:13. Note that Isaiah explicitly uses the name "Jehovah" (the Hebrew Tetragrammaton), and 1 Corinthians plainly CONTRASTS the mind of Jehovah with the mind of Christ Jesus.

(1 Corinthians 2:16) For “who has come to know the mind of Jehovah, that he may instruct him?” But we do have the mind of Christ.

(Romans 11:33-34) O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments are and past tracing out his ways are! 34 For “who has come to know Jehovah’s mind, or who has become his counselor?”

(Isaiah 40:13) Who has taken the proportions of the spirit of Jehovah, and who as his man of counsel can make him know anything?

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Answer 6

ex-mormon
I believe int he trinity because I got saved and I am a calvinist.
That God the father and his son Jesus Christ and the holy GHost are one and the same, but can work as seperate individuals.
kind of liek me being a Mom and a sister and a dughter at a family reunion, but all one person and operating as 3 seperate people to three differate people at the reunion.

Answer 7

I am a former Mormon and as a Mormon I was taught they are 3 separate beings.

I now believe they are 1.

Answer 8

Once you take apart LDS doctrine, christianity itself falls like a house of cards.

Makes life simpler and more essential to live every moment to it's fullest. Hard to do if you have to work for a living.

Answer 9

my mom is mormon and yes they do but the rest of their facts are insane in my opinion