the Declaration of Independence? Both documents mention God and Lincoln's most famous speeches were full of Biblical quotes.
2007-07-24 05:56:40 · 37 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Nope.
Are Christians against keeping schools from endorsing or promoting specific religious faiths by barring prayer to the Judeo-Christian deity and reference to it in the pledge?
2007-07-24 05:58:22 · answer #1 · answered by ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT•• 7 · 12⤊ 2⤋
Funny,,,I just saw a show about how Lincoln contacted psychics and had visions often.
About the documents, those are old and, as long as their taught as history, then I really don't see a problem teaching about them...or Aesop's fables.
I do have a problem with a person teaching that a certain version of a deity if the only correct thought and that the person will be punished by an invisible boogey-man if they dare to ask why.
2007-07-24 06:05:49 · answer #2 · answered by strpenta 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have no problem with my children learning about or reading either one whether they contain Biblical quotes or not. If they are historically accurate and relevant events or speeches, the children should learn about them.
Just because I am atheist does not mean that I will try to prevent my children from ever hearing anything about other religions. I want my children to learn and be knowledgeable. I simply don't want the schools imposing false theories based on religious dogma such as intelligent design. There is a big difference between a religious belief being taught in science class and a religious speech that is both historically accurate and relevant.
2007-07-24 05:58:57 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋
Nope.
Of course, there should be a point made in all history courses about how religion has been the source of strife for all of recorded history, and that even atheists like Lincoln were forced to sprinkle their speech with religious references that appealed to the ignorant and superstitious - just like politicians do today.
2007-07-24 06:05:16 · answer #4 · answered by Brent Y 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't believe so. I'm a athiest/agnostic and I am for reading historic documents that include god and religious citations because it is a part of our country's heritage and culture. So, the documents may mentions and hold a few beliefs that I may not hold myself, but they are a part of American history. If someone like me believes they should not be read, well, that is the same as denying to listen to lessons from the past.
2007-07-24 06:03:16 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Whether people like it or not, this country was founded by people who believed strongly that there is a god. To learn about this country, one MUST learn about its founders and the very special works they created. i/e Constitution, Bill of Rights, Gettysburg Address and the list goes on.
If some of my fellow athiests are so insecure that they worry that their children may be corrupted, then the problem is theirs and should be addressed.
2007-07-24 06:06:46 · answer #6 · answered by we_are_legion99 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No problem here, especially if the schools acknowledge that few of the Founding Fathers were in fact Christian, that the vast majority were deists. I also have no objection to the kiddies reading Thomas Paine's Age of Reason.
2007-07-24 06:09:21 · answer #7 · answered by Brendan G 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you confuse history with belief.
History is an important part of the school curriculum. Prayer has nothing to do with school. Science is vital to a good education, creation is not science.
Atheist have no problem with a person's personal beliefs. We do have a problem when privet belief crosses the line into the public sphere.
2007-07-24 06:04:50 · answer #8 · answered by atheist 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
We read both in school-they were a part of our history books and I had no objection whatsoever.
In chorus we sang 'Ave Maria' and 'Adeste Fideles' in latin, nonetheless.
In literature class we read poems aloud such as "Batter my heart O three-personed God" and "Little Lamb, Who Made Thee".
No one ever had any problems with these, and we went to a very diverse school.
And I'm from the much-maligned Public school system. And I'm very happy without a theocracy, thank you very much.
2007-07-24 06:05:05 · answer #9 · answered by Julia Sugarbaker 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE -
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. - NATURE'S GOD, NOT CHRISTIAN.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. - THEIR (UNNAMED CREATOR)
Other than "under god" there is no reference to anything other than the brave soldiers that died at Gettysburg. Where do you get "full of Bible quotes"? The speech was 3 minutes long.
2007-07-24 06:03:18 · answer #10 · answered by mikalina 4 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Those two documents are part of history and as such I have no problem with them learning about them.
Its not about Quotes from the bible that gets people upset its the blatant endorsement of religion that causes people to get angry.
2007-07-24 06:00:48 · answer #11 · answered by John C 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋