is braking a persons nose called reasonable?
2007-07-24 04:03:17 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law Enforcement & Police
We have a little more leniency in the prison system (Florida, USA) than a street officer, but if the client is in handcuffs, they should not be struck. Most P&P (policy and procedure) order of operations require printing with handcuffs on.
If the client (suspect) is not restrained, they should comply with printing. If they choose not to comply, non-lethal strikes with an approved device are an accepted method for achieving submission. Liability for bodily damaged is assumed by the client via non-compliance regardless of their mental or chemically influenced state if they are an adult.
There will always be a majority of officers that will want to do the right thing, use the least amount of force, and have the least conflict - and there will always be a violent corrupt sect as well.
If you know someone this happened to, they may need an attorney - and they definitely need to file a complaint with the police department.
2007-07-24 04:25:20 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
My knowledge of reasonable force is as follows:
A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances for the purposes of:
* self-defence; or
* defence of another; or
* defence of property; or
* prevention of crime; or
* lawful arrest.
In assessing the reasonableness of the force used, prosecutors should ask two questions:
* was the use of force justified in the circumstances, i.e. was there a need for any force at all? and
* was the force used excessive in the circumstances?
So, by the sound of it, no, it is not reasonable force unless it happens as they try to restrain the person if he/she is putting up a fight
2007-07-24 11:15:38 · answer #2 · answered by Scott B 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is called "escalation of force". This means that the officer can escalate the force necessary to legally obtain fingerprints. If you refuse, the officer can escalate the encounter in steps. If he broke your nose, you probably escalated it yourself by physically resisting the officer. I doubt even the lowest life donut eating cop would simply punch you in the nose as a first resort (most booking areas are heavily monitored - I doubt they would get away with it)
2007-07-24 11:45:28 · answer #3 · answered by Mr. PhD 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Don't know what they do in other places, but you can't be released without completing the booking process so we just took them to jail until they complied. Never had anyone in there more than a day before their little light bulb came on inside their head. Usually just needed to sober up.
Be more than willing to bet there is more to this story than what is told or at least a very one-sided version.
2007-07-24 14:48:46 · answer #4 · answered by Ret. Sgt. 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Persuasion or gentle holding of the hand to get the thumb for the finger print!
2007-07-24 11:08:05 · answer #5 · answered by Sami V 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes
2007-07-24 11:10:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
If the officer says it was appropriate, then that is probably what the courts will believe. It's messed up I know, but thats the system that we all choose to lay down and let f**k us our entire lives. Get used to it bud, they'll never let you go now that you are in their sights.
2007-07-24 11:08:46 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Is the person resisting, so they have to subdue them?
Or did the police break their nose out of nowhere? Which I doubt.
2007-07-24 11:06:02 · answer #8 · answered by guess 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Why don't you go look at the answers for last time you asked this question.
2007-07-24 15:08:10 · answer #9 · answered by woodyhou 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋