Dear men in Christ, have you ever seen a man, who seems to?

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be very Godly, someone speaks of tougue of God's glory but bears very bad fruit. Someone who has pride and ego same size of santan's, someone who thinks that is his birth right to use and abuse women emotional and physically and mentally, someone who is a pathological liar and constantly lie about everything. someone who is promiscous and yet prides himself as David, someone who is pround of the fact that he loves God but yet refuses to repent. Someone who is cruel, unkind, vindicative, loud, someone who is entitled to abuse, manipulate and use others, someone who will respond to your kind reminder with violent rage of asking you to remove your logs in your eyes. someone you want to remind him that God sees everything he does and what is in his heart. Some one you pray for his repentece.
Do people like this exists? Are they from God. Will God save them again before it is too late?
The David thing, why is it so common and convienece for them to say they are David

Devouted christian men and women only, I would like to hear you.

It is great sadness to see the lost of one's soul.
Can this person still be saved, if some one continue to pray for his slavation and repentence? I talked to a priest about this. He said, it is up to God and not human now.

I have already kept my self away at a safe place where the mental and emotional confusion and madness could not reaches.
Yes, I still believe in God's devine grace and infinite love. I know clearly that this lost soul have been shown many times where is the way towards light. The path is easy and clear to see. But the first step he must make is going to be exetremely heavy and painful for him Let's all pray for his strength to over come the darkness that reigns over his being and God will always looks upon him with mercy.

Well, My point is not to judge this person and truly I believe that it is in God's hand. I am not good at describing a person like this with the most possibly unjudgemental words.
Maybe providing examples will help. Out of many disturbing examples I could pick. The most frequently ones are such as below:

1) Telling everyone he is in a committed relationship and yet sleeping with another woman, who has just getting to know Jesus, and claiming that he is trying to lead her to church
2) Or promising one christian woman he is faithful in love. In the next night, having another Chirstian woman to sleep overright right away and telling the 2nd one he is single.
When he's confronted, he said :" I am not in a holy matrimony, I am not offending God as much as other married men" Bacially, he thinks he is entitle too.
Basically, my purpose of this posting is to ask you, as a faithful Christian. Have you seen people like this, and how does that affect you and your faith

I truly feel that it is pointless to judge him and whether God's judgement is heavy or light is up to him.
Besides staying away from people like this , praying for their repentce and God's mercy not to forsake them.
I truly would like to see if a case like this is so real and not uncommon to othe Christians.

I agree with Allen that someone who is powerful spiritually needs to pray over him. He is friends with a few priests and pastors. Ironically, non of them pointed it out him what he is doing is wrong. maybe he has concealed it really well in front of them.
My impression is that all his life, he was raised by his family to get away with anything bad he did. He always told me that he is the master of manipulatiion. Could he be using God's name as his disguise? He has talked about loving God, helping the needed all the time. One of his family member is a pastor. I once asked him the reason of him choose the path? It is because he is determined to serve God? He said no, he said he chose the path because he was drawn to the lifestyle first.
I have already walked away, once I saw that it is beyond my ability to help him in anyway. However; for his intention of loving God, I will contiune to pray for his salvation and God's mercy will not forsake him.

Answer 1

OK, it's official, you are one weird chick.

Answer 2

Guys like this are the ones who end up starting cults in the woods with militia-style arsenals and harems of underage girls. Report him to homeland security or the FBI right away.

For the record, David was not as good of a man as we all give him credit for. Forget the whole Bathsheba thing--that was small time. David was absolutely ruthless, an absolute scoundrel. He would kill hundreds in a fit of rage; he had a private mercenary force he would hire out essentially as government-sponsored hit-men. He was told he could build the temple because of the amount of blood on his hands.

David was a warrior hero and men look up to that. But men who feel the need to behave this way are NOT Godly at all. Look at Jesus' description in Matthew 5 of how people should behave when praying, fasting, etc... For that matter, look at the rest of the Gospel and see how Jesus behaved. Read Acts and see how the apostles behaved. Jesus was not Godly, He was GOD! That should be the example that a Christian man should follow.

Answer 3

Ever heard of David Koresh? Ask anyone around Waco and they will tell you that's him. David is a good comparison as he also was a tramp and a murderer.
This man is obviously possessed and needs to be pray over by people that know what they are doing and I don't mean a priest either. If you continue to pray for this man he still has a chance just because you ask it. It isn't up to God anymore he did his part now it's up to this sinner.
Certainly if he is the wolf in sheep's clothing he should be exposed for the safety of the congregation but that is your pastor's job. Inform him it is his church and he can't fix it if he doesn't know where it's broke.
By all means stay away from this guy. You don't indicate having the spiritual strength to deal with this and turning over to the Lord and the pastor is all you need do.
Pray with me.
Father we lift up this individual that would lead your people into sin and ask that You send your Holy Spirit to condemn him and put a layer of protection over the lives and souls of those he would pollute.
Use his own knowledge of the word of God to show him his sin.
Satan iI command you in the Holy name of Jesus Christ to let loose of this man's life and soul. Leave him not to return. Now go to God and confess your sin to him Father of lies begone. Lord grant us your protection from this devil. In our Holy Saviour's Name. Amen!
God Bless!

Answer 4

I knew a pastor like this once. Almost lost my religion over him. He had to leave the town he was at because of a rumored sexual encounter with a person in his congregation. Discovered about 10 years later that he was still in the ministry, but in a different denomination.

He could fool the best of us because he used psychology to his advantage. He could speak in tongues and utter prophecies, then blame the person for if they did not come to pass. He even once walked out of a Bible College classroom, because the instructor corrected him. As he left he yelled "I've been trying to show you the truth, but no one here will listen."

Yes, I have seen people like you mention, and no they are not from God no matter what they say. Will God save them--yes, but only if they truly repent from whatthey were doing and try to set thing straight. Why is it so common to claim to be a David--egotistism cause one to make claims far beyond what the person deserves. Besides, it eases their minds.

Answer 5

Yes these people exist. They are called unsaved, fakes, hypocrites, con artists--anything but a Christian. They use the title Christian to further their plots and schemes to get what they want from people. They are very dangerous because generally they have no sense of wrong or guilt. These are truly evil people. God will not force them to come to Him. That is their choice. David just got smart in his old age. If they repent, God will forgive them, but He won't force them.

Answer 6

Men/women who behave like this are what are referred to in scripture as "wolves in sheep's clothing", because they pretend to be good, and yet practice evil. Of such, you should stay away, and shut them off from you - called making them "anathema". Don't hate them, but pray for them. Do not pray together unless you believe this person really wants to repent, not just voice such intents.
If they won't repent from their evil, cruel acts, then leave them to God, because they probably can be saved. It's not up to us, but only to God.

Answer 7

Unfortunately, we all make errors. But. it's what we do with them and after them that tests the character of men. Bearing bad fruit as a believer in God through Christ is not what "love thy neighbor" represents. It is said that there are "wolves in sheep's clothing", and this seems to be a case in point, without judging him. To make a blanket statement of condemnation for him is wrong, but we can always dislike his behavior. We all fall short, at times. I can only speak from my own experiences. I have most assuredly mistreated others. At times, I still do, but I am quick to ask for forgiveness and I am quick to acknowledge mistakes. But to have a constant pattern of abusive behavior towards others is something that he needs to seek help on. No one can dictate to him how to mend his behavioral pattern except the Holy Spirit. He has to be open to doing God's will. If he isn't it's apparent that his behavior will continue. For your own protection, I would avoid him. You can pray for him, but God also gave you common sense. God always saves any man, even on death beds, through Jesus Christ. All mankind is from God, but we are given free thought. Many are called, few are chosen. Back off from him if he is abusive to you, and then he may get the quiet message that his behavior is intolerable and wrong. Then he may come to apologize not only to you, but to God.

Answer 8

Oh sure I think like that generally. It's tough to maintain religion robust and believe that god is with you at all times, as generally it doesnt look to be the case. We can do not anything in our force. The apostle paul mentioned that not anything well dwells within the flesh. All we will do is permit the grace of god to empower us and expand the brand new personailty like our lord jesus christ. We need to permit the holy spirit, or holy ghost, to purify and influence our hearts in order that it's by means of god that we accomplish his will. What a exceptional provision now we have from god! His unconditional love, his first-rate love he has for us who're in union with christ! Hallelujah! Thanks for you phrases of encouragement.

Answer 9

I'm not surprised that such a man exists. We are sinners and saints at the same time. Either God is working with him or he's not truly saved.

Answer 10

I knew a guy who came across as very spiritual, but he said something once about liking the ladies.... It didn't make sense at the time.

Then my husband worked with him, and they visited some... My hubby said that the guy was a nut-job extraordinaire! He seemed to think that he was some kind of messiah, and that it was his prerogative to "enjoy the pleasures of the flesh" with whomever would join him.

Apparently, he'd been married, and his wife walked in on him and another woman, and he had the nerve to invite her to join them. NO, he was no longer married when we met him.

Like I said, nut-job extraordinaire...

Answer 11

All it takes is one sin to be condemned to hell. I know I am no better than someone like this. I would pray for them knowing sin is sin no matter how big or small we picture it. Break one commandment and you have broken them all. God can change their heart and save them.