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possibly reach the same conclusions regarding our beliefs?

I often find that in an interesting battle of wits, I and my worthy opponent (usually my husband) are usually debating the same point from opposite sides of the spectrum.

"what say you" with regard to the debate over belief or non belief in one God?

2007-07-23 15:26:09 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2007-07-24 11:39:55 · update #1

dear Eagle Woman, Dave777, Quella and Raji: I agree 100%. I suppose it would be easy for me to choose Eagle, because I agree, however the question addresses humankind while we are alive, not after death. Once I read over the question and all the answers, I realized how difficult choosing an answer would be. So.....

2007-07-24 11:43:42 · update #2

19 answers

Truth HAS to be a universal phenomenon. It is just that we don't have the complete picture and tend to look at things from our own perspectives. Who knows, may be it is too great for the ordinary human mind to comprehend? Just think of the cosmos - have we really been able to fathom it? Aren't scientists still groping and seeing only little glimmers of truth?

2007-07-23 15:37:57 · answer #1 · answered by Traveller 5 · 2 0

I've never actually considered the possibility of reaching the same conclusions over the belief or non-belief in one God.
I've always thought that the best we can hope for is acceptance, from all sides.

Anything grander than that is impossible or nearly impossible. It is as Run James Run says, too many differences, even between just two people.

2007-07-23 22:36:57 · answer #2 · answered by Darth Cheney 7 · 2 0

I agree that we all think differently...and belief and non-belief is opposite poles. I just don't see how that leads to the same point. Unless the point is that we will always be in opposition. How can we come to the same conclusion when we are so far apart? For me, the math doesn't work. 1 + 1 will always equal 2.

atheist

The Atheist Bible, it could be said, has but one word: "THINK." - Emmett Fields

2007-07-23 22:32:04 · answer #3 · answered by AuroraDawn 7 · 1 1

Great question

I disagree with it regarding the "existence of God" subject. I don't think eventually we will reach a single conclusion about it, because there always will be room for speculation.

I really believe that there are always going to be people who think differently.

I had debates with my girlfriend that are just like the one you described though... I had never thought about it that way...

Paz de Cristo

2007-07-23 22:33:15 · answer #4 · answered by Emiliano M. 6 · 2 0

Everyone has their own religion or beliefs. Even two people who have the same "religion" have different opinions on certain points and therefore will never agree.

I don't believe in God personally, it's just too illogical.

2007-07-23 22:32:11 · answer #5 · answered by KC 3 · 2 0

In a debate on things other than religion or God, you should be acquinted with things you are suppose to defend. If it regards to God and the bible, you should acquiant yourself on the verses of the bible so that you will have your basis in answering your opponent.
jtm

2007-07-23 22:34:19 · answer #6 · answered by Jesus M 7 · 1 0

We all will reach the same conclusion.

No matter which way you go, you cannot fail to get Home. You have nothing to learn. You have only to remember. Life is a process of growth. Growth is the evidence of Divinity's presence and expression. All life works this way.

Lets use this example:
Consider the tree outside your window. It knows nothing more now, when it is fifteen feet tall and covers you with shade of its gigantic umbrella, than it did when it was a tiny seedling. All the information that it needed in order to become what it is today was contained in its seed. It had to learn nothing. It merely had to grow. In order to grow, it used the information locked inside its cellular memory.
You are not unlike the tree.

The point is:
Even the tree needs the sun to spur its growth. All of life is interconnected. No aspect or individuation of the Whole acts independently of any other aspect or individuation. Life continuously creates interactively. We are producing outcomes mutually. There is no other way we can produce them.
Your conversation with others, and all the information that comes to you from your outer world, is like rays of the sun. They cause the seed within you to grow.
There are many things that exist in your outer world that can lead you in the direction of your inner truth. Yet even those people, places, objects, and events are only reminders. They are like signposts.
That is, in fact, what the "outside world" is all about. The physical world is designed to provide you with a context within you might Experience outwardly what you Know inwardly.

Thus:
When you look at that world and all that happened to you, "judge not, and neither condemn."
You follow?

Let us use the tree example as our continuing friend in this portion of our discussion, helping us to find deeper understanding.

Let us imagine that you have walked out of the clearing and deep into a forest. You have never walked so deeply into the woods before, and you know that you are likely to have a little difficulty locating the clearing again. So, you place markings on the trees as you go.
Now, as you leave the forest, you see these markings and you remember that you put them there so that you could find your way out.
These markings are exterior to yourself. Ultimately they will lead you back Home, but they are not "Home" itself. The markings show you the trail, the path, the way--and the way looks familiar to you. You recognize it. That is, you "re-cognize" it, or "know it again." Yet the Way is not the Destination. Only you can take yourself to the destination.
Others can lead you to a path, others can show you their way, but only you can take yourself to the destination. Only you can decide to be Home with God.
Your outer world is the path. It is meant to lead you back Home. Indeed, all events in your outer world are meant to do exactly that.

Therefore:
No path back Home is better than any other path.
All paths take you there, because all it takes to get there is true desire, a pure and open heart, and faith that God has no reason to say,"No, you may not be with me." to any person for any reason, least of all because they've simply believed in God in a different way.
All true religions are wonderful and all true spiritual teachings are paths to God and no one religion and no one teaching is more "right" than another. There is more than one way to the mountaintop.
Religion was created by human cultures to assist those who are born in those cultures in knowing and understanding that there is an ever-present source of help in times of needs, strength in times of challenge, clarity in times of confusion, and compassion in times of pain.
Religion is also a manifestation of humankind's instinctive awareness that rituals, traditions, ceremonies, and customs have enormous value as markers that assert a people's presence in the world, and as the adhesive that secures that presence by holding a people's culture together.
Each culture has its beautiful and singular tradition honoring a beautiful and central truth: that there is something larger and more important in life than one's own desires, or even one's own needs; that life itself is a much more profound and far more meaningful experience than many people at first imagine; and that it is in love and mutual concern and forgiveness and creativity and playfulness and the joining of hands in a united effort to achieve a common goal in which will be found the deepest satisfactions and the most wondrous joys of the human encounter.

We Are All One. One Soul broken into a kajillion pieces of consciouness experiencing what we know.

2007-07-23 23:47:34 · answer #7 · answered by Paul 2 · 1 0

According to my belief system, oh yeah! The day will come when all of mankind, the quick and the dead, shall be saying the same thing for one glorious moment. Every tongue will speak in one accord.

2007-07-24 02:02:12 · answer #8 · answered by One Wing Eagle Woman 6 · 3 0

There's only ONE way to know for sure. Only, I'm not ready to undergo the process of finding out just yet. We'll ALL find out for absolutely sure when we die.

Raji the Green Witch

2007-07-24 08:44:38 · answer #9 · answered by Raji the Green Witch 7 · 2 0

I truly doubt, in any two people's heart of hearts, anyone believes the same thing someone else does. No two Catholics, Baptists, JWs, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics, atheists, anyone.

2007-07-23 22:33:28 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

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