The Desciples DID NOT believe in a Trinity so was King Constantine the one who pushed this Roman Pagan idea ?

Answer 1

I'm not a believer in the Trinity, but I think you're being a little unfair.

The Trinity, from what I understand, came about as early Christians tried to explain how one man's sacrifice could forgive all the sins of all the followers.

Christ had to be a part of a Triune God to explain how his Crucifixion could have been significant enough to atone for all the sins of man.

Answer 2

The Disciples new of the concept of the Trinity as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They some details but it was Church tradition that worked out the rest. Constantine decreed Christianity, the Catholic Church the official religion and Church.
1 John -There are three in heaven, father, son , and holy spirit, and the three are one.
The Council of Nicea used and adopted the correct term for the already understood concept of the Trinity.

Answer 3

The Bible systematically and thoroughly teaches the doctrine of the Trinity. If you want some good resources on what the Bible teaches in this respect just email me and I will point you to some good resources. The Bible does not use the word Trinity just as it does not use the word Bible.As a theological construct, the term “Trinity” was coined to express what the Bible and the early (pre-Nicene) Church Fathers taught about God. Whether one uses that particular term is quite irrelevant. The pertinent issue is whether or not one adopts the same teaching about God that the apostles did and which the early church fathers did.
Admittedly the writings of the early church fathers are pretty slow going, but one ought not to make blind assertions concerning authors they have not thoroughly read. Ignatius of Antioch very clearly taught the concept of the Trinity in the second century (Letter to the Ephesians 7:2, 9:1, 18:2). The deity of Christ and the Trinity were also clearly taught by such Ante-Nicene Fathers as Polycarp, Basil, Irenaeus, Gregory Thaumaturgus, and Tertullian. Tertullian devoted an entire book to defending the Trinity in the second century in which he said the following:

"We define that there are two, the Father and the Son, and three with the Holy Spirit, and this number is made by the pattern of salvation...[which] brings about unity in Trinity, interrelating the three, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are three, not in dignity, but in degree, not in substance but in form, not in power but in kind. They are of one substance and power, because there is one God from whom these degrees, forms and kinds devolve in the name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit." (Adv. Prax. 23; PL 2.156-7).

Novation wrote a third century trinitarian text entitled “The Trinity.” The concept of the Trinity is thoroughly expounded upon in Ante-Nicene writings and creeds. The word “trinity” is found 106 times in the collected writings of the Ante-Nicene Fathers.
I have read one author who asserted (quite ignorantly) that Origen denied the Trinity. Although Origen was unorthodox in some respects he too clearly taught a triune God in such works as De Principiis (Fundamental Doctrines) 1: preface 4, and uses the term “trinity” in 4:4:1. Another author I have read asserted that Athenagoras denied the Trinity in the second century but he could cite no such denial. The only quotes he could produce denied polytheism, which all Trinitarians have always denied. It is true that the Early Fathers sometimes spoke in imprudent terms as they opposed either modalism on the one hand and tritheism on the other. The precise wording of Trinitarian doctrine was hammered out over time and found its most eloquent expression in the fourth century.

You use the word "pagan" to describe the Bible's teaching on this subject. Critics of the Trinity sometimes cite the triads of deities found in some pagan religions as evidence the doctrine is false. This attempt at guilt by association is faulty, though. The pagan triads are tritheistic rather than trinitarian. Trinitarianism is unique among world religions in teaching that God is a multi-personal unity. The pagan triads are a counterfeit of the biblical revelation of the Trinity. Furthermore, such triads are so far removed in time and space from the authors of the New Testament and the early church fathers that it is not credible to suggest that they were influenced by such things.

Answer 4

What makes you think the disciples didn't believe in the Trinity?

They acknowledged and worshipped the Father. They spent three years in discipleship with the Son. And after the Resurrection and before the Ascension, they received the Holy Spirit.

There's nothing in the Bible that suggests that the disciples did not believe in the divinity of all three.

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Answer 5

For the most part, these creeds—the most famous of which is the Nicene Creed—were canonized in the fourth and fifth centuries a.d. following centuries of debate about the nature of the Godhead. Consequently, it is highly questionable whether these creeds reflect the thinking or beliefs of the New Testament church.

“The exact theological definition of the doctrine of the Trinity,” notes J. R. Dummelow, “was the result of a long process of development, which was not complete until the fifth century, or maybe even later.” 1 As Bill Forrest remarks, “To insist that a belief in the Trinity is requisite to being Christian, is to acknowledge that for centuries after the New Testament was completed thousands of Jesus’ followers were in fact not really ‘Christian.’ ”

Answer 6

No. Utuk is in error. Before the days of Constantine the early church fathers did mention a trinity, but it was NOT church doctrine. The first recorded use of the word in Christian theology was in about 180 AD by Theophilus of Antioch who used it of "God, his Word, and his Wisdom." In about 200 AD Tertullian used it of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. However, Tertullian’s concept of Father, Son, and holy spirit was a far cry from Christendom’s Trinity, for he was a subordinationist. He viewed the Son as subordinate to the Father. In Against Hermogenes he wrote:

“We should not suppose that there is any other being than God alone who is unbegotten and uncreated. . . . How can it be that anything, except the Father, should be older, and on this account indeed nobler, than the Son of God, the only-begotten and first-begotten Word? . . . That [God] which did not require a Maker to give it existence, will be much more elevated in rank than that [the Son] which had an author to bring it into being.”

During Constantine's rule, a controversy arose between two opposing viewpoints. On one side was Arius and his supporters who believed Jesus was a created being and was thus inferior to the Father. On the other side was Athanasius and his group who believed that Jesus was coeternal with the Father and was equal to the Father. Roman Emperor Constantine called the Council of Nicea to decide which side was right. Eventually, Constantine, a sun-worshipping pagan, sided with Athanasius and his group for political, NOT religious reasons. After that, the Nicene Creed was written up, stating that Jesus and the Father were equals. As A Catholic Dictionary notes: “The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 CE." In the year 381 C.E., another council met in Constantinople and declared that the holy spirit should be worshiped and glorified just as the Father and Son were. One year later, in 382 C.E., another synod met in Constantinople and affirmed the full divinity of the holy spirit. Decades later, the Athanasian Creed was written up that defined the trinity.

The disciples of Christ did not believe in the trinity. They believed Jehovah was the true God and that Jesus was God's Son. Ps. 83:18; John 17:3; 10:36

Trinity believers actually think their belief is based on the Bible, but it's not. Ask them to show you ONE verse or series of verses that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are all called God and combine to form one God. Ask them to show you from the Bible where it states that all three persons are co-equal, co-eternal, and almighty. THEY WON"T BE ABLE TO DO IT!!

Answer 7

The disciples did believe in the Father (Jesus taught them)Son and Holy Spirit
Everyone here seems to relate to a denomination re: the church; the true church began in the book of Acts
it was started by the Holy Spirit;
don't see too many like that today, somethings missing

Answer 8

I'm not sure why you think the disciples didn't believe in the Trinity.... perhaps they didn't call it the Trinity but they undoubtedly believed that God was three in one. They followed Jesus (God in flesh), they followed Jesus' example and prayed to God the Father, and experienced the indwelling of the Holy Spirit after Christ ascended into heaven.

Check out Matthew, John, Acts and Romans!

God Bless!

Answer 9

The desciples may not have believed in the Trinity, but the Disciples did

Answer 10

Read your Bibleya. The Trinity is stated in the first letter of St. John, 5.7-8: "And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. And these three are one. And there are three that give testimony on earth: the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three are one. Also, what does Jesus tell His Apostles? "Make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" (Matthew, 28.19).