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With the way that they are acting, even if I were for amnesty before, I wouldn't be now.

2007-07-23 12:07:16 · 28 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Immigration

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You are not alone! This racist group is disgusting! They are the Hispanic version of the KKK!

2007-07-23 12:10:18 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 17 6

Nope you are are with the majority. As far as Ricmon87 goes he should realize that Obama and Hillary are both courting the Hispanic vote so they will be seen with La Raza despite them being racists even if they only gain a few votes. They are politicians you don't actually think they care one way or the other do you?

2007-07-24 17:03:31 · answer #2 · answered by archkarat 4 · 1 0

La Raza doesn't bother me. Neither does Mecha. They are a radical fringe. We have the same elements on the other side of the issue.

I'll say it again: This isn't an issue about race. This is a legal issue that needs to be addressed, and I don't care if the color of the illegal is green. .
The ranters will rant. The ravers will rave.
Let them. At the end of the day that's all they'll still be doing.

2007-07-23 19:17:50 · answer #3 · answered by chuck_junior 7 · 7 3

No, you are not alone and what really bothers me the most is that the US government gives monetary grants to La Raza, who in turn fund charter schools that teach children of illegal aliens that assimilation is wrong. They teach Mexican superiority. If that's not racism, I don't know what is.
Their rant is amusing and pointless to me, although at times my patriotic pride rankles at the vileness of their anti-American rhetoric. Words of no value.
It really frosts me that the US government is squandering my tax dollars in grants to them.

2007-07-24 01:04:58 · answer #4 · answered by JustSaySo 3 · 2 0

Why do I think that La Raza is playing Good Cop, Bad Cop with us. When the amnesty debate started the key words were, Won't you please let these Poor Hard Working Souls that just want to Provide for Their Family have amnesty. Now it's there is going to be Hell To Pay because amnesty is not passed and we are tired of playing nice.

2007-07-23 19:15:12 · answer #5 · answered by jean 7 · 5 5

la raza who?anyways ignore this person whoever it is they are getting your goat all riled up show them no response that burns worse a remark with no replies like people honking at someone the other driver has issues and he/she wants you to feel that way to misery loves company wave to them they get more frustrated hate devours the soul

2007-07-23 20:39:15 · answer #6 · answered by unitedstatesofsocialistrepublic 4 · 3 1

How dare you !!! Hillary and Obama both where in Miami supporting La Raza. How do you expect change when you can not go with the program.

2007-07-23 19:20:42 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 5 4

If that is true they would be missusing the phrase "La Raza"

Here is the stuff I got from Wiki ;-)

Quote
"La Raza (Mexican Spanish IPA: [la ˈrasa]; Castillian Spanish IPA: [la ˈraθa]) is a Spanish-language phrase which, while literally translated as "the race", is more often used as a synonym of "el pueblo" or "la gente", both of which mean "the people". It is used to denote the people of Latin America who share the cultural and political legacies of Spanish colonialism, including the Spanish language and culture, and their descendants outside of Latin America. This term is mostly used by Mexicans and Mexican-Americans and on occasion Central Americans. Latin peoples in South America and especially the Caribbean seldom use the term.

The term "La Raza" may also encompass a racial significance associated with "mestizaje", or race-mixing (in Mexico not in Spain). In this sense, the term is inclusive of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, European immigrants, and all the mixtures among them."

End of Quote.
Please notice the part that says
"In this sense, the term is inclusive of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, European immigrants, and all the mixtures among them."

I don't know much about the "group" that gave themselves that name, so I can not speak for or against them at this point. However, I can defend the meaning of "La Raza".
;-)

Edit:
They must of done something to piss ppl off, here's what I ran into during a search:
"La Raza Newspapers is no longer a website affiliate of The Zwire Product."
a dead link from http://www.zwire.com/cancel/cancellation.asp?brd=2079
LOL
OK
I finally found a Wiki post of them at this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_La_Raza
So we can all judge for ourselves, and we can follow the citations so that we aren't mislead by any postings. Again judging for yalls selves.

Turns out they might not be the trouble group, it is in fact "MEChA" which they have ties with, so really yall should be complaining about them instead LOL if the Wiki is accurate. Plus, accusing someone or an organization on the grounds of affiliation is absurd unless they are close or secret ties. These are not secret and I doubt they are close. It's like saying Bill Clinton is Black because he got most of the Black vote. That's just dumb.
Here the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_La_Raza#Criticism
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEChA
Hmmm but then again it could be poor translation and lack of cultural knowledge that has lead to such misunderstanding among both sides of this controversy

Quote:
"Also controversial is the phrase "Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada," which is often translated "For the Race, everything, for those outside the Race, nothing". Many critics of MEChA see this statement as ethnocentric and/or racist.[citation needed] This phrase appears in El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán and is often claimed to be the "slogan" of MEChA, despite little attestation of its use by MEChA members or alleged importance within MEChA. The official motto of MEChA, as seen in its logo, is "La Unión Hace La Fuerza," meaning "Unity Makes Strength". Translation of the phrase is problematic due to its ambiguity: the Spanish word "por" can be translated several ways, depending on context. Normally, the word "para" is used to convey "for" as it is used in the context of the above phrase. Additionally, MEChA members themselves differ in their interpretations of "La Raza". While some use the term to strictly refer to only mestizos and Chicanos, others use it to mean all Hispanics and minorities, and still others claim that it refers to a generalized concept of "the community" or "the people"[citation needed]. Some claim that a more appropriate translation is "By the people, everything; outside of the people, nothing," and that it is best understood as an expression of solidarity similar to "United we stand, divided we fall." A likely origin of the phrase is the Cuban Revolution, which used a similar slogan, "Por la revolución todo, fuera de la revolución nada!""
End of Quote.

It seems they should have never stole the catch phrase of a long-a-go revolution, for it was better understood in translation then what they changed it to even though they intended it to be similar to our "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" about "The People"

Goes to show translation works for both sides, and they should have taken this into consideration if they didn't want to "sound" wrong from what they meant. Due to it possibly translating as "race" in the English language. I would say, that Americans failed to translate accurately, while the MEChA failed to consider what it might sound like in English. If you are an organization within the USA doing fund raising it serve you well to know your audience.

Believe me folks, it gets worse when trying to translate "Japaneses" so this is nothing new to any language / dialect.

***Thanks for the Q I never heard of these groups b4 ;-) now I've been educated (or maybe I have but never paid attention or bothered to remember)***

2007-07-23 23:07:17 · answer #8 · answered by Am 4 · 1 2

La Raza is just a fad. I wouldn't spend any time worrying about them--they are too extreme for even other Hispanics.

And no, I *won't* subcategorize into "Hispanic" and "Latino" just like I won't subcategorize into "Czech" or "German" for white folks.

2007-07-23 19:15:20 · answer #9 · answered by Mathsorcerer 7 · 5 4

Given that the God fearing neoMcCarthyites of the Bush League have been name calling for twenty years I suspect that the newcomers just think that is acceptable American politics. As long as Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter can say the things they say without protest, our lips are too dirty to utter a meaningful protest.

2007-07-23 19:18:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

NOPE. They've alienated far more than they have won over to their cause. One thing they conveniently forget is that whites are not the only ones who can be racists or bigots. If all they have in their decks are "race cards", expect them to play them to the hilt.

2007-07-23 21:15:33 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

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