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it is well documented that the WELSH are the original ENGLISH who ran to the hills and beyond & can be traced back thousands of years.........

2007-07-23 11:52:19 · 28 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Immigration

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The "Original English" were actually the Angles who invaded Britain from northern germany in the 5th Century, at least that is where the word originates from.

Recent studies suggest that the original British, (known as the "founders"), came to the British Isles from the Iberian peninsula. These were people who pre-dated the Celts and did not speak a Celtic language, but a non-celtic Indo-European language. Later they pretty much adopted the language and culture of the Brythonic Celts, who were apparently very good at spreading their culture, but not so good at spreading their genes.

Population studies of mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosomal DNA indicate that the modern day people of Wales, Ireland, west and central Scotland and Cornwall are mainly descended from these Iberian "founders" (>90% of gene types).

The vast majority of British people, however, have some DNA from these "founders" (at least 58% of gene types) indicating that the majority are of mixed descent, mainly from the founding Iberians, but with contributions from later waves of immigrants or invaders such as the Brythonic Celts, Picts, Romans, Scots, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Normans e.t.c, e.t.c, e.t.c.

In his book "Origins of the British" (2006), Stephen Oppenheimer states (pages 375 and 378):

"By far the majority of male gene types in Britain and Ireland derive from Iberia (modern Portugal and Spain), ranging from a low of 59% in Fakenham, Norfolk to highs of 96% in Llangefni, north Wales and 93% Castlerea, Ireland. On average only 30% of gene types in England derive from north-west Europe. Even without dating the earlier waves of north-west European immigration, this invalidates the Anglo-Saxon wipeout theory... ...75-95% of Britain and Ireland (genetic) matches derive from Iberia...Ireland, coastal Wales, and central and west-coast Scotland are almost entirely made up from Iberian founders, while the rest of the non-English parts of Britain and Ireland have similarly high rates. England has rather lower rates of Iberian types with marked heterogeneity, but no English sample has less than 58% of Iberian samples..."

2007-07-25 00:40:30 · answer #1 · answered by Spacephantom 7 · 3 0

Actually- we are English, Irish, SCots and Welsh are all genetically Celtic. There has been numerous studies on this, the latest indicates that teh overwhelming majority of English remain genetically identical to their Ice Age predecessors.
IF you don't believe me- believe the University studies I list below:

It is a Liberal lie that we were outbred by the Angles, the Saxons, the Jutes, the Danes, the Normans, the Hugenots, the Italian, the Spaniards and whomever else.
In fact overwhelmingly, we are not diluted at all.

http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/printarticle.php?id=7817

http://www.mun.ca/mst/heroicage/issues/4/Matthews.html

2007-07-23 22:07:21 · answer #2 · answered by B.o.B 2 · 0 0

I agree with Walter e, The Scots came from a group of unruly clans from Ireland who ran to the hills where the Picts stayed. The picts were going to kill them until one or the unruly introduced a beautiful woman who went on to marry the king pict. This became the isle of scoti. There is P Celtic and Q Celtic. One is the Gaelic language of Scotland and Ireland the others are Brythonic from Cornwall, Wales, Cumbria, Brittany, don't forget the Kentish language either.

Also remember that interbreeding went on with the vikings that invaded Ireland and Wales, The Danes in Scotland and the Saxons in England. Also remember that there were many tribes. Such as the Iceni. English is the language that Ancient Britons now speak.

2007-07-24 08:58:55 · answer #3 · answered by vee V 1 · 1 1

Actually, the Welsh are from Wales, and are the original Welsh, possibly Celts. If you had asked "who are the original inhabitants of what is now England", the correct answer MIGHT be "the Welsh".

But.

The original ENGLISH are the ANGLES who migrated from what is now Germany. As in, "Aglican", and "Anglo-Saxon". Anglish. English.

Too bloody right.

2007-07-23 12:11:53 · answer #4 · answered by open4one 7 · 1 2

DNA tests have proved the original English DNA is still almost the same it was in before the Romans came. When the Saxons came over they took over the country and mixed with the population about 100,000 Saxons mixed with 2 million Britons.

2007-07-24 04:55:08 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

First white people come from Caucaus Mountains around Russia or the vicinity. Modern black writers call Caucasions 'Race of Inbred Albino's.

Roman Empire, Latin. Broke off into the 'Romance Languages'.

England created by the Saxons, Anglos, and the Jutes.

The battle of Hastings 1066. English 'knight' will never be pronounced 'KA - nightED' again.

1970's it's cool for whites to walk and talk black. Birth of Wigger and Cracker and it's fashionable to abandon White heritage and culture.

2000's computer technical terms become part of everyday language.

1000 years ago white people are 25% of world population, 1000 (or less) years from now will be 2% or less of world population because of failing birth rates and racial intermarriages.

Original English or not in a thousands years there won't be any English to speak of or be proud of your point anyway.

2007-07-23 22:33:32 · answer #6 · answered by yars232c 6 · 0 4

well my family tree goes back as far as the Vikings, my family was related to a Norwegian raider, I would consider myself British, as my father and grandfather's fought in the world wars, giving me the right to say "if they fought for Britain's freedom, that make me British", lets face it does it really matter who are the real Brits, after 4 or 5 generations of living in a country, the off springs would only know the way of the country they have grow up in.

2007-07-24 19:26:27 · answer #7 · answered by junction 19 3 · 1 0

Yes it was the Welsh Celts although a lot of Celts were from Cornwall

2007-07-23 21:40:19 · answer #8 · answered by trish 5 · 0 1

This is quite a cool story: - "a research team at Oxford University has found the majority of Britons are Celts descended from Spanish tribes who began arriving about 7,000 years ago." http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1393742006
:-)

2007-07-24 19:38:52 · answer #9 · answered by Butterscotch 7 · 2 0

Celts like us Irish, Scottish and Welsh, then you got invaded by Saxons, Romans, Normans, Vikings etc and they settled and bred with you english and now you are a bit of everything.

2007-07-23 11:58:20 · answer #10 · answered by harvestmoon 5 · 0 2

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