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He basically said to ignore the old laws and to follow in the new laws he set forth.... so therefore does that not make the old testament redundant?

2007-07-23 10:49:35 · 22 answers · asked by Natashya K 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2007-07-23 10:52:36 · update #1

So then why as christians do you eat pork or charge interest as those are both against christianity.

2007-07-23 10:53:17 · update #2

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Excellent point;
I also find it interesting that the Pauline Gospel has replaced the Kingdom Gospel.

The original gospel is by far the best... that's the one Jesus preached. Learn the distinction between the two in the fun story, GE

2007-07-23 10:54:51 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

"I come not to replace the Law but to fulfill it."

Here is another translation:

Our Lord came, not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17).

Anyway, the Old Testament Laws have stood the test of time. (1)

No, Jesus did not say throw out the old Law. He did attack hypocrites and people who hid behind the fine points and got out the loopholes, and avoided the spirit of the law.

Christians eat pork if the pig is raised proper, the animal butchered right, and the pork processed. Jesus said "It is not what goes into the mouth which poisons a man's heart, but that which comes from his mouth." (2) Meaning that the mind conceives of evil, which is much more dangerous than the physical which some common sense can manage more easily than countering an abstract threat.

However, there are many who have shown that Jesus did in fact keep the Kosher laws. Perhaps the above is paraphrased or quoted to substantiate non-Judaic dietary practice. History has shown how different cultures affected the views and practice of religion as transmitted from one people to another, across the span of time.

Why do Christians charge interest to their own, against the Old Testament laws against usury? Jesus did attack the tables and stands of the money lenders. He opposed the usury and predatory practices of the temple money changers. I think that somewhere along history, human greed pushed out the practice of outlawing usury.

Today we have some legislators and activists in some parts of the United States who are trying to enact secular laws against predatory lending practices.

In my own humble opinion, it is good what Islamic banks to by not charging interest. I have read however, that the banks make profit on fees. I do not know how they reconcile this with Sharia, but I suppose they have a right to make some profit, as along as it is not excessive, and as long as the bankers perform the zakat according to the holy Quran.

It is my sincere hope that Christians, Moslems, Jews, and people who are not of "the Book" can learn from each other, and come to cooperate in the search for truth and peace. I leave all of you with Allah (G-d). Peace.

2007-07-23 10:54:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus full filled the law. The law was a school master that showed us we cannot make it without Jesus.
Every time Jesus taught in the Synagogue, he quoted the Old Testament. We cannot have the New Testament without the old, it would be incomplete. We cannot negate creation, the flood, and the condition of human kind. That is what the Old Testament is for.

2007-07-23 10:59:15 · answer #3 · answered by fortheimperium2003 5 · 2 0

In the beginning was the word...and the word was God....

He is the Alpha and the Omega...the Beginning and the End....

The teachings of Jesus are the old and new testament......

The Sacrificial laws were put away by his sacrifice on the cross....One can not read the New testament with out the Old Testament...How can one read the prophecies in Revelations with out the Old Testament??

need a little more study time

2007-07-23 11:07:30 · answer #4 · answered by coffee_pot12 7 · 2 0

Have you read either book?

There are things in the Old Testament that aren't even covered in the New Testament. Should those things just be ignored? I don't really think so. There's so much valuable information in the Old Testament.

Check out Isaiah some time. He wrote stuff that pertains to our day, whether you admit it or not. He prophesied of Jesus' first coming (Bethlehem), as well as His second coming (?). Should we really ignore that?? You may want to, but I won't.

Lots of bad stuff happens to people these days. To me, this makes the Book of Job increadilby applicable.

What about infidelity? Bet your buttons that happens... So what can a person learn from King David?... or should we ignore what he did to Uriah just to get Uriah's wife?

Courage and obedience to God, proper care of the body- Daniel...

We can still learn the value of patience from Noah- How long did he continue preaching after he was told to build the ark?

A classic portrait of loyalty is Ruth and her relationship with her mother-in-law. What beauty and strength!

The courage of queen Esther is pretty amazing as well. She risked her life for her people. That is true royalty.




Do you really want people today to ignore these lessons?

2007-07-23 11:07:38 · answer #5 · answered by Yoda's Duck 6 · 0 0

BTW no he did not say to ignore the old laws. The new testament does not serve to 'outdate' the old testament, rather, it serves an an appendage to it. Both are to be accepted at the same time.

If one of the sources of your argument is the idea that Jesus did not respect the sabbath etc. and argued with church officials, he did not do it in order to demean the OT, he did it to discourage strict interpretations that were manipulated by powerful people ( i.e. the pharisees).

It is completely fine to quote the old testament.

2007-07-23 10:55:28 · answer #6 · answered by Andrew C 3 · 1 0

Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

There is what He actually said. As I understand it, the original intent of that huge law was to show us that we couldn't do it. God's original plan included our redemption through the sacrifice of His son. We had to understand that we are incapable of living a sinless life so that we would be ready to accept Jesus' grace.

The law is still good, but we don't live by it now, we live by grace and by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Romans 5:20
The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21-
so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

I see grace as a sort of super power. It is our empowerment to live the best life possible. We walk in a way that we are listening to the small voice of the Holy Spirit. If we follow Him, we won't sin, we can walk in amazing blessing beyond our imagination. The old law still tells us what sin is, but life under the new covenant is about the "dos" instead of the "don'ts"

2007-07-23 11:41:43 · answer #7 · answered by BaseballGrrl 6 · 0 0

Jesus never, ever said to ignore the "old laws". He quoted often from the scriptures (which is now our Old Testament). He did, however, say that He was the fulfillment of the law.

The reason modern day Christians do not keep all the dietary laws is simple; these laws were handed down by God, to Moses, for the Hebrews. Gentile believers were never under these laws.

2007-07-23 11:02:59 · answer #8 · answered by Esther 7 · 2 1

No He did NOT tell us to ignore the Old Laws, He said He came to fulfill prophecy, and bring redemption, so now we no longer have to follow the laws of sacrifice , but God never changes so what was an Abomination to GOD in the Old is still an abomination to God today,


the Old Testament is what the Apostles taught out of

2Tim 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Acts 8:28-40
Act 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same Scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

the only scripture they had was the Old Testament

2007-07-23 11:04:32 · answer #9 · answered by Noble Angel 6 · 1 0

"Redundant" is not what you are trying to say! I believe what you mean is: obsolete. Redundant meant repeating itself. Let's just say for arguements sake I'm a Christian. I don't find the new testament to be a comfortable fit into my lifestyle! I only believe to the extent that I'm a viable social player in my community. I can't handle the full strength so pass me the decaf! All the others around me don't know or care that it's decaf. They're just glad that we're all drinking coffee together!

2007-07-23 10:58:23 · answer #10 · answered by oogabooga37 6 · 0 0

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