(This “blame the American people” approach has, through repetition, almost become the accepted explanation for the outcome in Vietnam, attributing defeat to a loss of public support and not to fifteen years of military failure.)
The war is no longer defined by the benefits of winning — a stable Iraq, democracy on the march in the Middle East, the collapse of the evil Iranian and Syrian regimes — but by the consequences of defeat.
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2007-07-23 05:20:44 · 11 answers · asked by plenum222 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
On the contrary, the war is still defined by the benefits of winning, but because the Democrats on the far left refuse to acknowledge the benefits, Bush, and others who support the war, are forced to defer to the potential disaster that would result from a complete withdraw.
Democrats deny the validity of the war in Iraq largely on the basis that it has nothing to do with the war on Terror, claiming that "Al-Qaida was never in Iraq." To believe such a claim shows either naivety, or a complete disconnect from reality as a result of political motivations and a pathologic hatred for Bush. Al-Qaida is (or was) in EVERY OTHER Arab/Muslim country on earth, and even a few non-muslim nations. Give me ONE good reason to believe they weren't also in Iraq, a country who's climate was perfect for the training and funding of terrorists? Moreover, we are currently fighting terrorists in Iraq. Doesn't that make it part of the War on Terror by DEFINITION?
Therefore, any blame, no matter who receives it, is the result of flawed perception, not reality.
And I'm so tired of being told that this is an "illegal war". There is no such thing as an illegal war, as we are a SOVEREIGN nation, bound only by our own laws, which were certainly not violated in order to go to war. It was authorized by congress and is only NOW opposed by Democrats on teh basis of what they perceive as its diminishing popularity. If the war was still popular do you think the Democrats would be as vocal as they are? Of course not. They are, and always have been, a party of sponge-spines who make decisions based on what they think is most popular. They have no beliefs because they are too busy being "open minded" to take a solid position on anything, making it easy to flip-flop between positions when convenient without having to explain themselves. God help us.
Bush and the Republicans are to be commended for continuing to do what they think is right despite the whims of poll data.
2007-07-23 05:35:12 · answer #1 · answered by Daniel A: Zionist Pig 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
The Middle East has a history of fighting, not peace. War is the reality in that part of the world.
Going into the Middle East for the purpose of "peace" is and will continue to be a "no win" situation.
Going into the Middle East to overthrow Sad Man Insane is history.
Something had to be done and the designated world cop, the USA, had the guts to do it.
Continue on in Iraq, that deserves further scrutiny.
2007-07-23 06:21:22 · answer #2 · answered by Randy 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
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2016-09-30 12:35:34 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Vietnam was and is a Military failure and so is the illegal Iraq war. The military people can't stand the thought of admitting defeat so they blame it on the Fonda followers or the Liberals. The truth is it is an abject military failure in Vietnam and Iraq. Shame is coming once again to the USA.
2007-07-23 05:30:59 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
and the iraqi people as well.
last week bush signed an executive order making anyone who is 'perceivd' as doing something that is bad for the war in iraq can have their assets seized.
this means that if telling the truth about teh terrible decision making and deeply corrupt iraq war is 'perceived' as bad for that effort, those doing the reporting can have their stuff taken away from them, without any sort of due process.
for those who keep making comparisons between bush and hitler, this will be more fuel for their fires.
just before hitler killed himself (thereby not ever having to be accountable for his actions) he declared that the german people were to blame for not properly supporting the war effort and ordered the destruction of all public works, factories and just about everything else.
this flouting of the constitution simply MUST STOP!
2007-07-23 05:40:34 · answer #5 · answered by nostradamus02012 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
We haven;t lost in Iraq. Why do people keep saying that?
No one is 'blaming the American people', we blame the congress for tying the soldier's hands. Voting for a war and then refusing to fund it.
As for your belief that the war is not defined by winning,
1: this is unprecidented warefare. There has never been a war like this one and it's not an easy way to fight.
2: "Setting up a stable Iraqi government" is the definition of victory.
". . . fifteen years of military failure" where do you get this stuff? Since we stopped letting the congress stick its nose in matters of war, we've been very successful. Desert Storm was one of the best-run and best executed operations in history. The shock and awe of the early part of Iraqi Freedom, went perfectly, as did our work in Afganistan. The only reason we're having trouble now, is because the new democratic congress is making trouble.
2007-07-23 05:29:27 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 4⤋
Loss?
ROFLMAO
where the hell have you been hiding?
Here's a hint, your boy Saddam is dead, that's D E A D and that's one of the reason we went there. We already won Iraq and now we are teaching the Iraqi Army to fight the insurgents. Are you really that dense to think we lost?
ROFLMAO!!!!!
2007-07-23 06:12:08 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
i don't think hes blame the American people i think he liberals like you and the cowed crat oh i mean the Democrats..
2007-07-23 05:34:36 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
If it weren't for the American people not supporting President Bush we would have won by now!
2007-07-23 05:24:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 6⤋
It is not the President who has let the troops down in Iraq.
It is people like you.
2007-07-23 05:30:29 · answer #10 · answered by MikeGolf 7 · 4⤊ 5⤋