By definition it would seem to me that an illegal alien should be deported to their homeland and be encouraged to enter the good ole US of A by using the legal channels. My grandfather came from Europe by way of Ellis Island and became an American citizen legally and America became his homeland of choice. He was proud of his Swedish heritage but he was definatly an American. He learned the language and had a true sense of pride to be an American.
WHY are some of our politicians trying to make illegals "legal" and why are these people not REQUIRED to learn the official language of our country. Why must THEY be accomodated (as in "press #2 to spanish) when they aren't bothering to learn the language of the country that they now live in.
I would like to hear from people that have, what they think, are valid reasons as to why these people should be allowed to stay and shouldn't bother to learn english either. clearly, there are many that don't WANT to learn!
2007-07-23 04:52:43 · 18 answers · asked by Janice C 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
Traditionally this country has accepted legal immigration in all it's forms as a win-win situation. The country welcomed immigrants wanting to live the American dream as Americans. America also had control of who entered or who did not. Contrary to some beliefs not all the immigrants that made it to Ellis got into this country. Those immigrants who made it, eagerly assimilated into the US as citizens of this great nation. They produced and flourished which helped the country. They had cultural pride no doubt about it, but they learned English, identified themselves as Americans first as a point of pride and wanted desperately to be recognized as Americans. Their children, for the most part, were indistinguishable from other Americans, a clear sign of what the attitude of their parents were.
This is not the situation today with the vast majority of illegal immigrants, especially those from Mexico. In their particular case they identify themselves not as Americans but as Mexicans. They have no intention of assimilation. They refuse to learn and speak English not because they're stupid, but because they don't want to. These folks are here for the jobs that they cannot get back in their own screwed-up country. If there were jobs in Mexico for these folks we wouldn't have this issue.
What really irritates me is that these same folks then have street demonstrations, waving the Mexican flag, refusing to speak English, and expecting US citizens to just acquiesce as if they have a right to be here. They throw it back in our faces - then wonder with indignation why there's such a backlash. Which only shows that they are also quite ignorant of how Americans think as well since they make no attempt to be Americans.
To correct the problem out leaders have opted for a quick fix to a complicated issue. The have short-sided vision. By making all illegals legal they believe that the issue will just go away somehow. This was attempted before under the Reagan administration on a much smaller scale. As anyone can see it didn't work. The reality is most Americans, in my opinion, won't accept having illegals suddenly made legal. It's a simplistic approach and it's the wrong approach.
I believe the solution lies in strict border entry enforcement including physical barriers and an increased Federal presence on the border (in this case the Federal government is the only choice for uniform enforcement). Enforcement of existing laws would help. A lot of people don't know it, but existing laws, if enforced, would make the life of an illegal here quite unpleasant. Lastly, employers should be heavily penalized for hiring illegal aliens.
My great fear is that in the end little if anything will be done. We will end up with two distinct Americas divided not only by race, but by culture and language. A nation so constructed cannot survive - but before our eyes we see our weasel political leadership (on both sides of the fence) enabling it's creation.
All the above has been proposed of course. The question becomes, do we have the national will to make it happen?
2007-07-23 05:56:50 · answer #1 · answered by Michael M 6 · 6⤊ 0⤋
For the most part illegal immigration is not tackled by Liberals but rather there are two differing views amongst Conservatives. Big Business Conservatives like illegal immigration because it provides cheap labor and cuts costs for businesses; however, Social Conservatives support deportation because they support upholding the status quo. The Big Business Conservatives were the ones that support amnesty for illegal immigrants. While the Social Conservatives are most vocal in supporting deportations. While Liberals lean towards the Big Business Conservatives on the issue both sides of the argument stem from the Republican party not the Democrats.
2016-05-21 00:59:17 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, no one (very few) is arguing that illegal aliens captured by border patrol should not be deported. The argument is what policy do we want to govern those already here. The proposal is to make those that are here illegally have a chance at having legal status (a Z visa). Also, if you look into the failed bill that would have done this, they would have had to take extensive English and acclamation classes to even apply.
The point of policy is to decide what is illegal and what to do about it. The laws can and should change to serve society the best. My simple argument for why those currently illegally in the U.S. should be given some legal status is that they are absolutely vital for the U.S. economy. Our society is best served by having a large, unskilled labor force around. That's it. That's the reason.
Although the current law (which is a mess of contradictory and inconsistent policies) makes them illegal, we (our government) can change that with a few pages of typing. The question is whether they should change that. I think they should because it is good for the economy. Once again, the bill that would make them legal workers in the U.S. would have required extensive English and civics classes.
2007-07-23 05:00:35 · answer #3 · answered by C.S. 5 · 3⤊ 3⤋
The reform proposition that was declined by congress not long ago did require those becoming legalized to learn English. You obviously don't have a lot of knowledge about the process to becoming a legal resident, so please keep yourself from trying to have an opinion on the issue. All I have to say is that it's not just about going to the American embassy and asking for it. Anyhow, I still wouldn't be against having stuff in two languages, since new immigrants take a while to learn a new language. It's not something they get right away. Did you know that your grandfather got a citizenship test IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE if he really come through Ellis Island? Why did no one say anything then? I guess the problem is really against Spanish, not any other languages.
2007-07-23 05:19:14 · answer #4 · answered by Siervocal 4 · 2⤊ 4⤋
There are no arguments. Illegals are illegals and should be deported! It's true, as the previous poster stated, that we don't have an official language in the U.S. Of course, the most predominant one is English. We should make it official! But ACLU and other illegal alien supporters are always trying to stop this process. You are right, all immigrants (illegals and legals) should be accommodating to our language and culture. It doesn't mean that the immigrants should forget where they came from...just learn to respect the American culture! Be proud to be here in the best country in the world!
2007-07-23 05:13:06 · answer #5 · answered by MsLovely's6thSense 2 · 5⤊ 3⤋
I don't care what language they speak or where they come from, we can't afford to have this many illegals in our nation. I will not push 1 for English and shouldn't have to, ever! I also don't care why they came here, they need to go. We can't support our own people efficiently enough to take on the entire world's poor, uneducated and unskilled. We have enough of those, we have enough criminals as well. Aristotle said, " the law is reason without passion." that means don't become emotionally invested in a crime, it's just illegal! I think that he was right.
2007-07-23 05:25:01 · answer #6 · answered by Ms.L.A. 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
The gray areas are too many. If someone has come here undocumented, but, has children in the US (perhaps even with a US citizen) the children would be denied their parent, and, quite possibly have to go on governmental assistance. If both parents were undocumented and deported, the children would potentially be raised by foster families for the next 18 years. I don't think our country should be pulling families apart.
And, deportation is moot. You can be deported and be back in a couple days. I knew a gentleman that was deported on Friday and came back to work on Wednesday. Of course, he just explained he had a family emergency and was docked the days as "personal".
Secondly, America does NOT have an "official" language. WE have a most-commonly used language. There are MANY other languages here, not just Spanish. The 2nd most commonly used in the court system here is Swahili, and, Hmong.
2007-07-23 05:01:43 · answer #7 · answered by Amanda h 5 · 1⤊ 6⤋
I used to think they deserve to stay but after what happened to me recently I am rethinking my opinion.
I parked outside a factory as I wanted to take a call on my cell phone. Just when I was talking, a pickup truck reversed and banged into me. Before I knew anything else, a big Mexico rushed to me and demanded compensation saying I banged his vehicle. I was still cool as my car engine was not even on and we were on flat ground. Besides, I had consolation that there were some 50 or more workers within 10 feet away waiting for their transport who could be my witness. But to my horror, everyone in the crowd joined in and said I was the one who hit him and I should pay.
I still can't get over it. It felt like I was a stranger in a foreign land.
2007-07-23 08:34:04 · answer #8 · answered by Ann101 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
We the people have spoken 200+million strong NO amnesty
there's no what ifs or arguments. Just leave or be deported.We are enforcing the laws.An for the 1s that think they will just come back does jail sound like your there next job.There being fingerprinted for further ID info.Lets see them fraud there finger prints.Remember those that voted for or supported the amnesry bill vote them out in 2008.
2007-07-23 05:05:34 · answer #9 · answered by 45 auto 7 · 8⤊ 3⤋
I cannot think of one reason besides compassion to let them stay. While most of us feel very badly for those who are going through hardships, the reasons we cannot let the poor population of every country around the world reside here in America are quite obvious. There really isn't any help for those poor countries by letting their citizens come here. Help for their country starts in their country....
The reasons for not letting them stay, on the other hand, are abundant.
2007-07-23 05:14:17 · answer #10 · answered by asdfjkl; 5 · 4⤊ 3⤋