As already pointed out by many salvation has to be worked at to be kept, you can't say I'm saved and carry on consciously sinning; I say consciously sinning because we are all sinners. We can however, make a conscious effort to follow God's commandments every day of our lives and repent when we frequently fall short. Philippians 2 :12 "keep working out YOUR own salvation with fear and trembling" Hebrews 5:9 "and after he (Jesus) ahd been made perfect, he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him,". So salvation requires obedience and action.
On another subject your first poster has got it very wrong. Jesus was not born on 25 December, the 4th century Christian church under Constantine 'adopted' this date from other pagan dates in an effort to try and get pagan people into church. From the available evidence Jesus was probably born in the Autumn. The festival which is commonly called Christ's birthday can be attributed to festivals such as Saternalia and has nothing to do with Christ.
2007-07-23 02:18:58
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answered by the truth has set me free 4
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This is a hotly debated question. I think so, but many don't. I guess the point is if someone accepts Jesus as Lord,and then blasphemes the Holy Spirit, was that person truly saved. I can argue with scripture that one can lose salvation, and others can male a case the other way. I recently asked a pastor this, and he said the official stand of the Bible college where he went to was not to take a stand. But why not live as if we can lose it.
2007-07-23 00:56:10
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answered by RB 7
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Can a Believer "Lose" His Salvation?
Or Stated More Accurately, Can He Forfeit It?
Has God indeed said...Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away."? (Luke 8:13)
the scripture clearly teaches BOTH the sovereignty of God AND the free will of men. To deny this is irrational, and must be caused by something other than reason based on scriptural precepts.
The scriptural position is that a person who is saved can forfeit that salvation. The bible teaches those at highest risk of forfeiting their salvation are those who are newly saved, and those who continue on in known disobedience, after being born again.
The elect are those whom God chose, whom God foresaw would both trust in His Son AND who would endure or persevere in the faith given them until the end of their physical life, or the return of Jesus.
Those whose hearts are seeking the Lord with all that is in them, should have no concern about "losing" their salvation. Nor should they have any concern about forfeiting their salvation.
Salvation cannot be lost, but it can be forfeited - this is the nature of covenants in the bible. The bible no where guarantee's someone that salvation once received cannot be turned away from or forfeited by the individual that possesses it.
Receiving salvation involves man's will, and not works. Forfeiting salvation involves man's will, and not works. In the same way the Lord did not force His salvation on anyone, He neither forces anyone to remain in the covenant.
2007-07-23 00:54:12
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, the bible make us to know that false prophets would come and deceive many even the elect shall fall according to Mark 13:22: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
That is even if one is not careful, one can lose his or her salvation by this means
2007-07-23 00:58:10
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answered by onoscity 4
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@the truth: this wasn´t the question!!
Well, I think to many people think they just have to love Jesus..
But the bible says you must DO something - not only talk! True christians must be active not passive..If you failed u have to regret..but don´t think that u can sin all the time and then regret it later. Jesus can look into our hearts! He knows the motivation of your behaviour!
Of course they can lose their salvation..
2007-07-23 00:58:37
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answered by Anonymous
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Saved from what? Oh yes, that wrathful god from the bible.
But to answer I must convert to Christianity... one moment please... just a moment... still converting.... done.
The answer is, according to the holy bible, the word of god: some are destined for heaven (I say some, not all, ie the apostles and others), but anyone else can stuff up any time and go to hell.
[Aquila quickly converts back to being an infidel and great heretic]
2007-07-23 00:57:23
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answered by Anonymous
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To 'the truth' who made the first post....If you knew my Jesus as I do you would stop spouting your distractions and get on with living a righteous life.
When you have your salvation through Jesus Christ, you always have it unless you backslide to the extent that you begin to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
Best wishes, Mike.
2007-07-23 00:56:17
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answered by georgiansilver 4
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Well, first of all you can't be saved in this life. Salvation comes at death. Simply saying, "I am saved", or "I am born-again" doesn't make it so.
Pretty vain, don't you think?
2007-07-23 00:54:08
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answered by Anonymous
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to "the truth",
if you base your beliefs purely on some theoretical garbage posted on the internet (a place that loves sensation) you should REALLY WAKE THE F UP!
2007-07-23 00:57:44
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answered by phate 4
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Since God has predestined His own from eternity, wouldn't it make sense that His decrees would stick?
2007-07-23 14:43:54
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answered by ccrider 7
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