Is the concept of Trinity amongst the Christians supported by the writings in the BIBLE itself??...?

Question

According to the Athanasian Creed: "The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God."
In this Holy Trinity: "The three Persons are CO-EQUAL and CO-ETERNAL: all alike are UNCREATED and OMNIPOTENT." (The Catholic Encyclopedia)
Thus the Trinity is considered to be: (One God in three Persons."
There is only one verse in the whole of Holy Scripture called the Bible which unequivocally supports this Christian dogma:
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one. " The first Epistle of John 5:7
Dr C.I, Scofield, D.D. backed by eight other D.D.'s in a footnote to this verse opine:
"IT IS GENERALLY AGREED THAT THIS VERSE HAS NO MANUSCRIPT AUTHORITY AND HAS BEEN INSERTED."
All the modern translations including the Revised Standard Version (RSV) this expunged, thus confirming the Qur'anic concept: "They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three In a Trinity

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............thus confirming this Qur'anic refutation:

"They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three In a Trinity: for there is no God except one God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." Holy Qur'an 5:76

1.Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):
(i) "My Father is greater than I." [The Bible, John 14:28]
(ii) "My Father is greater than all." [The Bible, John 10:29]
(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…." [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]
(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…." [The Bible, Luke 11:20]
(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." [The Bible, John 5:30]

2. God Sent Jesus' (pbuh)
The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses:
(i)" and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me." [The Bible, John 14:24]
(ii)"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent." The Bible, John 17:3]
3.Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity
Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible: "And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’
And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]
Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path........

.....On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

4.Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God
The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.
"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know." [The Bible, Acts 2:22]
5.The First Commandment is that God is One
The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."
This is a Hebrew quotation....

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."
This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:
"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord." [The Bible, Mark 12:29]
It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in the Bible. In fact, various verses of the Bible point to Jesus’ (pbuh) actual mission, which was to fulfill the law revealed to Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus (pbuh) rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity to him, and explained his miracles as the power of the One True God.
Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of Almighty God.

CONCEPT OF GOD IN OLD TESTAMENT:
1.God is One
The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad". It is a Hebrew quotation which means: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]

2.Unity of God in the Book of Isaiah

The following verses are from the Book of Isaiah:
(i)"I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour."[The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]

(ii)"I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me."[The Bible, Isaiah 45:5]
(iii)"I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me."[The Bible, Isaiah 46:9]

3. Old Testament condemns idol worship

(i) Old Testament condemns idol worship in the following verses:
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God."[The Bible, Exodus 20:3-5]

(ii) A similar message is repeated in the book of Deuteronomy:
"Thou shalt have none other gods before me."
"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath the earth."
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God." [The Bible, Deuteronomy 5:7-9]

MATT HAS FORGOTTEN THAT THE STATEMENT of
"there are three that bear record in heaven..the father, the son and the holy ghost" which was in the 1st EPISTLE of John has been expunged from the Bible as a fabrication and a concoction

Answer 1

why yes .. yes it is ...

Answer 2

1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.

2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is WITHOUT question. In English, you only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).

In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of 3 distinct persons in the Trinity.

3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, "LORD" is distinguished from "Lord" (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The "LORD" has a "Son" (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the "LORD" (Numbers 27:18) and from "God" (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, John 14:16-17 is where Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity - the Father.

4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16 (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).

5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship, and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.

6) The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of: 1) the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); 2) divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); 3) salvation (John 3:16-17); and 4) Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father INITIATES all of these things.

The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: 1) the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); 2) divine revelation (John 1:1; Matthew 11:27; John 16:12-15; Revelation 1:1); and 3) salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.

The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: 1) creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); 2) divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); 3) salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and 4) Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Answer 3

It may be that the materials for the construction of the Trinity doctrine are to be found in the New Testament, but

FORMALLY SPEAKING THAT DOCTRINE IS NOT THERE.

With the meeting between early Christianity and the great Graeco-Roman philosophical and intellectual heritage it became necessary to face questions about the ultimate meaning of creation, the inner nature of God, the notion of grace, THE ANALYSIS OF HOW CHRIST COULD BE BOTH GOD AND HUMAN BEING, and so on.

In the Christian tradition, the story of Jesus' life and the ritual of the communion service led to attempts to provide an analysis of the nature of the Divine Being which would preserve both the idea of the Incarnation (Jesus as God), and the belief in one God.

The result was the doctrine of the Trinity, which sees God as three presons in one substance.

Early Christianity had its origin in the New Testament and the theology of Paul.

BUT IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE FOURTH CENTURY that its formation is ( roughly speaking) completed, with the formulation of CRUCIAL doctrines, such as that of the TRINITY, that of the elaboration of the communion, and so on .............

Answer 4

John 1.In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God 2.The same was in the beginning with God. 3. All things were made by Him;and without Him was not anything made that was made. (Then lets skip to verse 14). And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus is the word of God manifest in the flesh. That does not make God 3 persons. Besides the Bible says God is a spirit not a person. He became a person when He took on the fleshly form of Jesus. We are all comprised of 3 components, body, soul, spirit but we are all only one person.

Answer 5

Yes, in Bible scripture it teaches that there is only one true and living God who has chosen to reveal Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 43:10 - 11; Matthew 28:19; Luke 3:22).

Answer 6

My goodness, you have written a small book here. For me, suffice it to say that the father, son and holy ghost are the holy trinity. Father God the creator, sent His Son, Jesus, to be born of woman, Mary, so that mankind can be saved from sin, and the Holy Ghost is the risen Lord. Just as you are born from your father, so was Jesus born of His Father, God. Jesus was sent here to teach us humans how to love one another. He never asked anyone to worship Him, he only said to "follow me". Meaning to live your life by following His example. People who were living on the earth at the time Jesus walked the earth, fell down worshiping Him because they saw with their own human eyes the miracles he worked and, therefore, knew he was God. That is why in the Bible it says, "Blessed is he who believes because he has seen, but more blessed are those who believe and have not seen."

Answer 7

The question isn't whether there is ONE verse that teaches the Trinity, but whether the TOTALITY of scripture teaches the Trinity.

There is ONE God (we seem to agree on that).
God the Father is God (we seem to agree on that).
Jesus is God.
1) Thomas calls him "[his] Lord and [his] God".
2) The Johannine prologue refers to Jesus as the Word who was God and with God.
3) He has attributes, such as immutability (Hebrews 13:8), that only God has.
4) Verses in the NT quote or paraphrase those in the OT that refer to Yahweh as referring to Jesus, such as the common phrasing of "hina pisteusete... hoti ego eimi" in Isaiah 43:10 (in the LXX) and John 13:19 (so that you may believe... that I am He), the eternal creator passages in Psalm 102:25-27 and Hebrews 1:8-12, and the identification of the glory of Yahweh that Isaiah saw in 6:9-11 as being that of Jesus in John 122:37-41.
The Holy Spirit is God and personal, since it speaks, guides, comforts, discloses, glorifies, testifies, and can be grieved.

And the Trinity does not state that God is one of three, but that there is ONE God who is THREE Persons. There are not three Gods in the Trinity, but one, just as there is not one Person in the Trinity, but three.

Answer 8

Jesus was created the almighty has always been here, these are the scriptures to prove it.


(Colossians 1:15-17) . . .5 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,

(Revelation 3:14) 14 “And to the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ce´a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,

(Acts 7:55) 55 But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand,

(Revelation 1:1) 1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John,

(Revelation 7:10) 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

Answer 9

All throughout history when men wanted answers to questions they turned to prophets for answers. A prophet by definition is one who speaks with God and conveys to man Gods wishes. Simply put.

In the scriptures (Bible) it is stated that in the mouth of two witnesses shall everything be established.

The question of the Trinity or Godhead is a question as old as time itself. Originally Adam knew the answer because he personally walked and talked with God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. But, Adam's children like the children of mankind today choose not to follow correct teachings and adopted materialism and the teachings of Satan. Over time they lost the true teachings of God and except for the family of Noah were destroyed in the universal flood. By the way Noah was a prophet called to preach repentance to the people, and teach them true religion. As the children and grand children of Noah scattered around the world and languages changed they again lost the true teachings.

The Bible is a record of God's attempts to teach the Hebrew nation correct principles through his living prophets. Reading the Bible will disclose the success and failures of their attempts. Did God call prophets in other nations. Yes and eventually we will have their writings also.

In modern times God has again called prophets to try to convince the people of this world the error of their ways and to convince them to accept God and Jesus Christ.

As part of God's plan to do this He had prophets on this American continent record His teachings over two centuries and then called a prophet in 1830 to translate these records. The translation is the Book of Mormon and it is a second witness to the Divinity of Jesus Christ. The Book of Mormon proves that Joseph Smith was a prophet.

Joseph Smith was an eye withness to the answer of your question about the existance of the Trinity. He stood in the presence of both God the Father and Jesus Christ, at the same time. He testifies that God the Father and Jesus Christ , the Son are two separate persons who possess ressurected and glorified bodies and that the Holy Ghost is a personage of Spirit with out a body of flesh and bones.

Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon are a second witness to the Bible of these scared truths. They both teach that they are three distinct beings that share the same purpose; that being the exaltation and eternal life of man.

Now for the test. Study, read, and pray about the Book of Mormon and find out for yourself. Then you can also stand as a witness.

Answer 10

Then God said, “Let Us make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” Gen. 1:26

I and My Father are one. John 10:30

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1 John 5:7

Then the Lord God said, 'Behold, the man has become like ONE of US, knowing good and evil; and now, lest he stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever. Gen. 3:22

Go to, let US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. Gen. 11:7

Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for US? Then said I, Here am I; send me. Isaiah 6:8

Stay away from the koran. It's satans little black book and it's a false gospel!

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim. 3:16-17

Answer 11

First, for the answerers who were professing Christians; The doctrine of the Trinity is found nowhere in the Bible. It was adopted from pagan Babylonian mystery religions by the Catholic Church and promulgated by her Protestant daughters.

Any "proofs" consist of twisted and misunderstood scriptures as well as one scripture added by a Catholic scribe when they realized that there really was no proof of the trinity in the Bible. For an in depth study of the falsehood of the trinity go to the following website:

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/why-is-belief-that-god-is-a-trinity-so-hard-to-understand-1.html

You owe it to yourselves to proof this beyond any shadow of a doubt to yourselves.

Secondly, to the asker. The Koran is and always will be a man made religious text that has no basis in fact or in God. The Koran was written by an arab bandit and murderer 600 years after the New Testament accounts ended.

For a better understanding of the falsehood of Islam please go to the following site:

http://hope-of-israel.org/scourge1.html