A woman's place?

Question

The bible sais that women should be quiet and subjective to their husbands in the book of Timothy. I think this is a crock of sh*t. Shouldnt women be treated with equal respect and shouldnt they have a say in life? Did Christ teach that a woman's place is in the kitchen? What is His stand on equality?

Answer 1

Not at all. Please continue reading ALL that Paul and the other apostles had to say about women in general, and wives in particular. Husbands are to love their wives as Christ loves the church. Paul especially makes clear that women are meant to be equal to their husbands. Submitting to a husband's authority is not to give up your place as his equal. He should value any and all input you have to offer, for you are in the place of God for him. The only thing it's saying is that when a decision is made by your husband, you should honor it, for he is (supposed to be) the head of the household. He should remember this, as well, and not make decisions that no one else wants anything to do with, nor should he lord his authority over the rest of the family.

Answer 2

Equal, but with different ROLES.
Because of our present day understanding of only our culture, it has been TOO easy for many to place their own understanding INTO the meanings of the Bible.
That's a common mistake many make.
We are all equal in the eyes of Christ, but He ordained us to have different ROLES.
Not every culture is going to be the same, but some things will remain the same since they are ordered by God.
This DOES NOT mean one gender is inferior, or another superior, not at all.
If the scriptures are read with an open mind to see what is truly there, you will discover that not only are men and women equal in Christ, but the man has been given more responsibility, there is to be a MUTUAL submission to each other, women appear to have done many things in the church, among them, one was chosen by Paul to deliver the letter of Romans to the Romans, and other things.

If a woman is not treated with respect, it doesn't come from a proper understanding of scripture, but an improper one.

Answer 3

This is one of those passages that the "wolves in sheep's clothing" as the Bible calls them, love to twist to fit THEIR means.
Here are three of good examples of Jesus' relationship to woman and their respected "roles".

1) The Gospel of John chapter 4 tells a story of a woman who was a Samaritan came to a well where Jesus had stopped to rest. He asked her for a drink of water, and the first thing she did was marvel that he, being a Jew would even speak to her. He then said to her, "If you knew who was speaking to you, you would ask him for a drink," and the conversation went from there.
The point I want to show here however, is that this woman ran back to her little town and told everyone to come see this wonderful man she had met at the well. That means it was a woman who spread the gospel to Samaria! Not a man.
2) The Gospel of Luke 10:40-42 This is about two sisters Mary and Martha. Martha thought it was her place to stay in the kitchen and serve everyone while Mary sat with Jesus and listened to everything he had to say. Martha finally had enough and complained to Jesus that she was left to do all the work while her sister just sat around. Jesus told her that it was Mary who had chosen to do what was most needed. So that means that Jesus is just as concerned with a woman's spiritual growth as any man's.
3) The Gospel of John 20:11-18 Mary Magdalene was the one who went to Jesus' desciples and told them the He had risen! This act makes a woman to be the very first evangelist!
So to me, that shows beyond any doubt that Jesus gladly will allow a woman to take on any task he would give to a man.
As for why does this passage exists I believe there might have been one or group of women who were loud mouthed control freaks reuining every service at the church that Paul was writing to. Saying "women should be silent..." might have been Paul's way to address the issue without naming anyone specifially. That's just entirely my opinion though and there's no way to prove it.

Answer 4

If Christ didn't think that women were important enough to here the Word, then he would have told Mary to join Martha in the kitchen.

Paul seems very aggressive and frequently talks about women being submissive, not teaching, quiet, etc. However, this shouldn't be misinterpreted for not being 'equal'.

Answer 5

Eve was Woman 2.0. Lilith was the first woman created and she was headstrong and competitive. Today's women are descendants of Eve who was created from Adam's rib. What do the ribs do? They protect the heart. Women are supposed to be their husbands help meet not his competitor. They are supposed to support him and he is supposed to treat them with respect. So if he goes out and works all day to pay the bills, she should have a hot meal ready for him when he gets home. If they both work, they share what responsibilities they can but some areas are still mainly hers. That's how I interpret God's stand on equality.

Answer 6

Women and men were not created equally, but they should be treated equally. Men were created stronger and women were created (generally) more creative. We use these assets in our jobs and that is why men are more physical laborers than women are.

The Bible, the Book of Timothy, those books weren't written by God or Jesus, but rather by man, who thought they had all the answers at the time. Remember, these are the same people who thought the world was flat. In due time, we proved that was false..

Answer 7

The text you're talking about is in "Paul's" letter to Timothy (probably NOT written by the actual Paul, but somebody else using his name). As for what Jesus himself thought on the subject of woman's place in society, it's anybody's guess. He makes no definitive statements on the subject in the gospels, but the gospels are not the work of Jesus either, so there's no means of deciding whether the "red letters" really represent his ideas anyway. Paul (and pseudo-Paul) had no problem speaking for Jesus, but of course Paul never met Jesus. I suppose you can accept the claim that Paul, like all the canonical Biblical authors, was divinely inspired, as was the anonymous author who wrote under his name; and in that case, you'd have to admit that God apparently thinks women should shut up in church and subject themselves utterly to their husbands.

And of course, there are "Christian" women who are willing to acquiesce in this: "If he goes out and works all day to pay the bills, she should have a hot meal ready for him when he gets home." LOL. Well, if she's happy with that situation, more power to her; but she can hardly expect all women to do the same as a point of "righteousness."

Answer 8

That sounds ok to me. He isn't saying they should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen or that they shouldn't have a say in life. Just that they need to shut their yaps and be faithful to their husbands.

Keep in mind the things you read in the Bible are from a different time and culture. Durning that time women were supposed to be submissive and not equal to a man. Which is exaclty why I don't beleive in the bible. Too many contradictions.

Answer 9

this is one of the things in the bible that should be ignored. the modern christian teachings do not say this about women. that was an accepted opinion of the time because thats where the womans place was way back when.

Answer 10

The Bible was written by men, which is why some parts are sexist. The only thing that can be said about equality in the Bible in my opinion, is when God took out a rib from Adam's side. Which signifies, Adam's partner will not only stand beside him, but that they are apart of each other, thus- equal.