God loves you so much and has so much compassion, that he sacrificed his only son to be murdered for your sins

Question

That was what was submitted as an answer to a previous question.

Am I to believe this actually makes sense to anyone?

Am I to believe this sounds like a god worthy of worship?

God can do -anything-!

He doesn't have to "sacrificed his only son to be murdered for your sins.".

A real God could simply forgive them, period.

A real God wouldn't need the melodramatics of torture and crucifixion.

A real God of love and compassion would understand Humanity and forgive, as a Father with his child.

A real God would not have to pull out someone and have him crucified to convince the child God loves him and forgives him.

I will -never- understand the mentality that believes the crucifixion was necessary to forgive sin.

A real God can do -anything-, and needn't resort to bloodshed to get done what he wants done.

And a real God of Love would -never- resort to bloodshed, ever.

Answer 1

I'm sure He has His reasons. I don't know what they are.
But, I can see your point, as well.

Answer 2

That God would require a blood sacrifice to appease himself is indeed bizarre. (Women can change their minds, but GOD can't?? lol)

Religion makes people accept the strangest things. No one in their right mind would think this made sense except that it came from a "holy book." Too bad no one takes the time to do their research and learn that the Bible was largely plagiarized from Hellenic texts, and that virgin births accompany an astonishing number of god stories.

This was all the mythology of an ignorant, fearful people who didn't have the tools or knowledge to understand nature or the spread of disease and who were used to respecting totalitarian rulers who usually started all their speeches with, "I'm the big one, the only one, the head honcho, and you better not defy me, all you little people," which is exactly how the ten commandments begin.

I wish it was as simple as "there's a loving God caring for all of us," but the stories just don't add up if you step OUTSIDE the dogma for a moment and look at them. From inside the dogma, well then of course, nothing can be considered thoughtfully, and in fact you will consider your own faculties to be your enemy and an agent of evil. What a wretched condition to willingly assume.

Answer 3

If God is Just, then he must resort to violence to punish the wicked, but he shows his love to the people who love him.He can do anything but what human can question God's viewpoints especially when he is beyond time and can see the ending we cannot? Maybe all the events in the bible had to be perfected to the fullest to complete the end of the story to make all believe his truth. Quite simply we don't know. Why wouldn't a God of love persist with violence if the person he loved asked him to justify themselves with violence, isn't this the exact response we have when we see a loved one in need? Mercy is something that only some comprehend, so wouldn't God give mercy to some and justice to others?

Answer 4

I agree with your point. I sat in church as a seven year old and thought the same thoughts. Karma is my only explanation for how this 'indoctrination' is acceptable to any human being.

However, I realized even back then that a person like Jesus was purposeful in what he was doing and saying, whether anyone understood in the present day or not. The skewing of the message toward a potential heaven/hell life 'after death' has been the culprit in layers of misunderstanding over two millennia.

Every event of his life was metaphorical for the internal transcendence/overcoming of the little learned identity and the power inherent in the rebirth/remembering of the Christ (annointed) Self which leads to the experience of eternal "aliveness" or fulfillment.

Answer 5

A "real God" would make everyone love one another, and no one would ever hurt another person, and there would only be love and joy and peace, if there were a "real God," is that what you are saying?

So, because there is not only love and peace on earth that means that God is not real?

If there is no God, then why do you strive against the belief in God so much?

The bible says that man loves sin more than he loves God, and so he doesn't approach him because the light of God would shine on his sin and expose it. But those who do truth come to God, showing that God is.

Do you know that evil is contrasted to truth, not to good? Look it up in John 3:20-21.

Answer 6

I once asked for examples of God's love, and the only examples I received quoted John 3:16 -- "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

What amazed me, Orion, is that this was the *only* example given. No one could come up with anything else that might show God to be a compassionate, loving God.

How they can continue to believe that he is *all loving* is beyond me. The Bible has countless examples of death and destruction, genocide and plagues, etc. We are visited in our daily life with countless trials and heartaches, and God never intervenes to end this suffering and torment.

Yet he is a loving God. I don't understand it.

Edit: I do recall one person stating that God gave Job a new family and wealth to make up for what was lost in the bet with the devil, but really, would a loving god have allowed poor Job to be tortured so badly, and his family destroyed, in the first place?

Answer 7

A human being has two options in life. Either to believe in God or not to believe in God. If I believe in God, I have the satisfaction that some One out there Loves me and wants me to live a moral and healthy life and hope is attached to it; Hope that one day He will return and take me to His home.

If I choose not to believe in God I have no hope...I only live for today with the hope that I will live tomorrow. In believing in the later, my life has no purpose. That we are all animals and our universe exists because of chance.

I prefer to think that life has a purpose and God is my purpose. He created our planet in 6 days and rested on the Sabbath and He shed his blood for us to show us how much He loves us. That the Creator is willing to sacrifice Himself for us in order for us to have everlasting life. Evolution does not offer us anything but what we see today....unmorality to the highest degree that our God has to return soon and quite all unbelievers and Lucifer for the last time.

Good night and may the Lord touch your hearts.

Answer 8

Who are you oh man that God is mindful of you? Hebrews?

The Psalmist understood God... many Psalms can show you who God is.... God is not our coca-cola machine, He has a plan and purpose..

You are putting your expectations on God, when really we should submit and obey him.

You need to understand the Jewish sacrificial system before you can understand that Jesus death was a sacrifice for our sin...

Answer 9

The God that the Jews imagined demanded blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. Many primitive cultures have believed the same........Christ died as a symbol to say "enough is enough" no more blood needs to be shed....His sacrifice back-fired in what the Christians of today have created from his blood.

Answer 10

You are right, a real God shouldn't need such horror.

It does make sense, from a certain point of view.

Xianity is a Hebrew messianic cult, gone a bit haywire, but that is it's roots.

So, to understand it, you have to understand the ancient Hebrew religion. Back in the temple days, people came to the temple, and sacrificed things, to show they were sorry for their sins...(remember Cain and Abel?)

So, the messiah thing in Xianity is based off of the old Hebrew religions need for sacrafice in the temple, to get rid of the sins of the people...Jesus just being the last one needed...

Answer 11

God is holy and perfect. No imperfect person can be in God's presence or endure His presence. He is perfect in justice. The justice of God says that one sin banishes a person from the presence of God forever unless the penalty for that sin is paid. And the penalty for every sin is physical death and spritual death, or banishment from God. There is nobody who could pay the penalty except somebody sinless and perfect and there is nobody who can be or ever is. Therefore the Law of Mercy comes in where God Himself as His only begotten son in the flesh comes to earth as the only perfect man and offers his own self as a supstitutionary subject to pay your penalties for your sins for you. He requires only that you accept that gift, and that you have faith in Him and that gift, and that you repent of those sins and strive to obey him. He also overcame death through the resurrection. Opening the way for you to follow if you accept Him.

The sacrifices of unblemished firstborn male animals in the old Testament were constant reminders that only the sacrifice of the perfect Son of God could save men, and the Law of Moses was to show that nobody can NOT sin and not live the commandments perfectly.

God can do anything--except disobey his own laws! If he were not perfect in obeying his own laws he would no longer be perfect nor dependable, and in a sense he would cease to be God!

The ONLY thing that pays for sin is spiritual banishment and physical death and the shedding of blood. This is the law of God and God will not go againt his own laws. His laws allow for someone who can ransom you if you pay the price. The ransomer has to go through what you would. Only a perfect God could do this and come through it victorious. The price you pay is that you now belong to the ransomer, you become his slave or subject.

You don't get forgiven and loved without the consequences. God is a God of justice. God is also a God of Mercy because He took your punishment for you if you will accept it.

Eternal justice means eternal laws and eternal blessings or eternal consequences. That is the way it is. God keeps His laws perfectly .