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2007-07-22 05:10:29 · 21 answers · asked by April 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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"Look around you" is not proof of God.

It's a combination of three different (undeveloped) arguments.

Argument from 1st cause: "Everything had to come from somewhere."
This is both a false dilemma and an appeal to ignorance.

Argument from beauty: "That is so beautiful God must exist."
This is highly subjective, usually evolutionary, and often dismisses the ugliness of the world.

Argument from design: "Everything is so well-designed God must exist."
This argument is more convincing than the others but still commits the fallacy of begging the question. It assumes everything demonstrates design, when in reality, this is what needs to be proven. Often it mistakes order for design, and also ignores things that appear chaotic.

2007-07-22 05:18:40 · answer #1 · answered by Eleventy 6 · 2 2

See the beauty of nature - a supreme being with a very high taste and life style could only produce all the beauty - the wings of a butterfly, a single leaf the majestic mountains and water falls ... I could go on all these beauty and detail does not happen by magic or evolution ! If the earth had been a mistaken happening, it could have been one foot closer or away from the sun without being in the ideal place. The movement of all other celestial bodies travelling in perfect timing is also proof that unless there was a supreme God, none of this would happen.

2007-07-22 12:39:46 · answer #2 · answered by Kamala R 1 · 0 2

Why should we try? If you have no desire for God you would just mock us anyways, and if God had called you unto himself you could not be talked out of this truth. God called me is why I believe in him and if he doesn't call you then you would not come to God even if he could be proved. I am the proof of God's existence, I know him and better yet he knows me.
Jews seek to see miracles for proof and Gentiles seek knowledge for proof, but God is not here to entertain you and the book is the Law of God telling us how and what he is so that people that really want God can find him.
The Bible is a science book to a Gentile and a miracle to a Jew. But if you seek the truth you can find it, and this will set your heart and mind free. But if your doubt the Bible you are not called so you would not understand even if it was proved without a doubt.

2007-07-22 12:22:48 · answer #3 · answered by sirromo4u 4 · 3 1

First off, how do you define heaven? Where birds fly? Where stars and planets exist? A dimension where God dwells?

And when it comes to God existing, creation demands a creator.

Something cannot come from nothing, and yet all matter came into being. Even science teaches that.

Eleventy is engaging in straw-man arguments.

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2007-07-22 12:27:05 · answer #4 · answered by Hogie 7 · 2 0

The existence of heaven or God isn't determined by any particular book whatsoever. The supposed 'existence' is based on faith and your belief is what makes it exist.

Religious books will either collapse or empower your belief in God, depending on how you look at it.

2007-07-22 12:14:51 · answer #5 · answered by shmorgashboard 2 · 1 0

Can you prove that God and Heaven do NOT exist? My point is that there are mysteries that we will not know the answers to until after we die. If you don't belive in God or Heaven then why do you bother to try to live a good life? Why not do whatever it takes to get what you want in life no matter who you may hurt to get in there? Why bother to have children? What is the reason for continuing life? If you truly don't believe in God and Heaven, then why do you care that others do. I think that it's because you just want to be convinced. Look at your children and tell me they aren't miracles. Look at the first flowers of spring or the first snowfall of winter. How can you question that there is a God? Prove to me that there isn't.

2007-07-22 12:27:13 · answer #6 · answered by The Watcher 2 · 1 3

No Holy Book or Science known to man can prove either.

"God is within man - man is within God." This is the mystery that man has to discover. This is why man was sent to earth.

To discover if this is true a person must go within him or herself.
It's an inside job!

No Bible quotes used..........
It's up to you to find the answer to this unending question.

2007-07-22 12:51:43 · answer #7 · answered by WillRogerswannabe 7 · 0 1

Can you honestly look at this world, the mountains, the oceans, the rivers, the forests, the animals, outer space without realizing they have a Great Creator? Chance doesn't happen that many times. Takes too much faith to believe in chance. Very easy to believe in God. The Holy Spirit inside of me opens doors, opens parking spots, makes very long trips short, refreshes my body and brings to my mouth the Word of God that I have read so that at the right moment and the right time I am able to say the right thing.

2007-07-22 12:20:24 · answer #8 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 2 3

The transcendental argument for GOd.
The fact that you use logic. In a atheist world view there is no origin for logic. I ask unbeliver to explain logic. they will use induction. we test with our senses the world around us using induction. 2+2=4 over and over again so we know its true. I ask how do you know it will be true in the future that it will stay the same. please justify induction for me. they say. Well because the earth is uniform it will be the same in the future.
How do you know the earth is uniform?
Well in the past the sun rises in the east sets in the west. we test it and see it happen over and over so it will be in the future.

Ok do you see the problem here?
I asked them to justify induction and the used induction. because it happened in the past it will in the future. They have begged the question. they cannot go any further to justify there use of Logic. they have no source for Logic. you can put it this way. The Atheist can count but they cant account.
See Logic is immaterial, it is universal. it is not in space nor time. but it is there. and you cant justify something using it to justify its self.
THe thiest however can justify induction. Because there is a creator God who created the world to be uniform we can say there well be logic and it will work with the world around us. THe Atheist can only say there thoughts are a product of a mindless cause. mind does not have logic it cant so you cannot say for certain that you are using logic unless you call upon a mind for the origin of it (God). \
Logic is a reflection of his nature. Unchanging immaterial eternal universal. A is A and will never be B. So the Atheist has to call upon the theist to justify Logic. Other wise their use of it is stuck in their world view, one that does not say for certain their thoughts have order. Just asking the question does God exist is to call upon his existence.
YOu can use logic if you believe all knowledge comes from the five sences. because logic is not material

2007-07-22 12:31:30 · answer #9 · answered by Michael M 3 · 1 2

Rama_Setu also known as Adam’s Bridge was a bridge made of floating limestone boulders with the hindu god rama’s name on it. The bridge was discovered by scientist in early 2000 and it proves that the bridge is evidence that events narrated in the Ramayana, a hindu epic, actually took place. The stones still float.

2007-07-22 12:17:33 · answer #10 · answered by Last Man ON Earth 2 · 0 3

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