How many Christians here agree that the "rapture" idea is False Doctrine ?

Question

This doctrine gained popularity in the 1830s, and more recently in the 1970s, with proponents of the premillenialist, and in particular the dispensationalist, interpretations of scripture.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture


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Answer 1

The Church (righteous) will go through the Tribulation! That is Biblical, no doubt about it.

1. God did not rapture Noah out of the flood, they were kept safe through it.

2. God did not rapture Danial out of the Lions den, He was kept safe through it.

3. God did not rapture Israel out of slavery in Egypt they were kept safe through it.

4. God did not rapture the 3 Hebrew children from the Fire and furnace, they were kept safe through it.

5. God will not rapture the church out of the tribulation, we will be kept safe through it.

In responce to another answer, If you don't think God can keep you safe through the tribulation then I don't see how "you" can claim to be Christian.

Answer 2

I Believe in it!

Did you know that only about 85 percent of Christian theologians and Christians who have studied the Bible (as opposed to just reading it) believe in the Rapture and the Seven Year Tribulation? Then each has different points of view as to when it will take place.

YOU NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEACH AND QUIT TAKING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SAYS!!!!

Most people don’t know that the ideal of the Rapture or a Pre-tribulation Rapture was first announced by Theologian J.N. Darby. Some even teach that the concept of the Rapture was not taught by the early church, until around 1830.

Well, if I may; Here’s a little eye opener for them!

Prophecy scholar and author Grant Jeffrey discovered a sermon by a Greek Orthodox theologian named Ephraem, who died before 400 A.D. Even though some scholars claim it is not the work of Ephraem, but of a later theologian, who was influenced by him, and that it was actually written before 700 A.D.

Now, in either case the 400 AD or 700 AD dates substantially pre-dates the alleged 1830 date.

Answer 3

Be careful to call this teaching false as there is basis in scripture to support the "rapture" as the wikipeida entry you refer to gives scriptures that support it. We must not say a teaching is false just because it seems impossible. I think God has something planned for us though if it is the rapture, followed by the tribulation, followed the the millennium reign of Christ I am not sure. This was the teaching I was taught when I attended a Pentecostal Church, but we really need to search the Bible prayerfully to see if it is true or not.

Sometimes if we don't think a belief that another Christian is correct then if we can't persuade them it is not correct, then we must say that "we agree to disagree". It it God who will judge them and us, we must not do.

The only time we can say a belief is false is if it definitely is the opposite of what the Bible says. This teaching is not that, but just one possible interpretation of the scriptures.

Answer 4

Not me. The rapture is spoken of in the Bible, only the word 'rapture' isn't used. What do you make of this Scripture passage?

Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Answer 5

I think it has been greatly over played and tim lahays books may have added to the hype. I enjoy the books bt know the are fiction. only God knows exactly how things will happen but Jesus did imply that there would be a rapture but I do not think we can expect to understand how it will happen.

Answer 6

I believe it is not false doctrine because there is reference made to it in the new testament. It says something along the lines " Upon his return will be caught up in the air with him. Wish I had chapter and verse for you right now, I know I have read it and there is no other meaning.

Answer 7

The rapture that is taught the most today is false.

The Bible says that the rapture happens at the end of the world.

“Another parable put He forth unto them, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, ‘Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? From whence then hath it tares?’ He said unto them, ‘An enemy hath done this.’ The servants said unto him, ‘Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?’ But he said, ‘Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.’’” (Matthew 13:24 – 29 KJV)

Now that is an interesting story, and it can be a little confusing; fortunately, because the disciples found this story a little confusing they also and asked Jesus to explain if further. Because our God is not a God of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33), Jesus explained what this parable meant.

“Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, ‘Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.’ He answered and said unto them, ‘He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.’” (Matthew 13:36 – 42 KJV)

A closer study of this parable would seem to completely disprove the theory of a secret rapture of the church. Let’s take a look at what Jesus had to say about the time of the end through this parable. There are two groups on the earth represented by the wheat (the good or the church) and the tares (the evil). The workers of the field (probably representing angels) are troubled by the tares that the evil one (the devil) has planted. They ask the farmer (Jesus) if they should gather the weeds now and purify the field (the world). The farmer (Jesus) said that it should not happen that way because some of the wheat may come up with the tares. He then declares, “Let both grow together until the harvest (the end of the world): and in the time of harvest (the end of the world) I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.” I find it hard to be a proponent of a secret rapture for the church when Jesus said that both the good and the evil will grow together until the harvest (the end of the world). How can the church be raptured, leaving the evil on the earth, when Jesus said they will be together until the very end?

There is another issue raised by this parable. Many well intentioned Christians use the story in Matthew 24:40 & 41 and Luke 17:34 – 36 as key proof of a secret rapture for the church, but if we examine this story about the end times with the earlier story Jesus told about the end times in Matthew 13, we get a completely different picture from what most Christians interpret this story to mean. Let’s look at what Jesus said in these verses.

“Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.” (Matthew 24:40 – 42 KJV)

“I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” (Luke 17:34 – 36 KJV)

Now I do not think that I am wrong in thinking that most Christians interpret these stories to mean that the man taken from the field, the woman that is taken while grinding, and the man taken in his sleep are the ones that belong to the group that is the church and are ruptured. This does not seem to be a plausible explanation however. Jesus gives an order for things to happen back in Matthew 13. “Gather ye together first the tares (the evil), and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat (the good or the church) into my barn.” Jesus clearly says that the evil will be gathered first. If we take this understanding and apply it to Matthew 24 and Luke 17, we get a very different understanding. The ones that are taken are not in the group we want to be in. The ones who are taken are the tares (the evil) that are being gathered to be burned, but the ones that are left are the wheat (the good) that are saved.

There is another metaphor that many well intentioned Christians use to support a secret rapture for the church; I feel that this too is an invalid interpretation of a story.

“But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.” (Matthew 24:43 & 44 KJV)

“And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.” (Luke 12:39 & 40 KJV)

“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.” (1 Thessalonians 5:2 KJV)

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” (2 Peter 3:10 KJV)

“Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.” (Revelation 16:15 KJV)

Here again, most Christians would attempt to say that this metaphor of a thief in the night is depicting a secret rapture for the church. I believe that most Christians have misinterpreted this too. First, Jesus explains what this metaphor means. He says that the meaning is not that the second coming is a secret but we do not know when it will occur. If we knew what day the Lord was to come, we would get ready the day before it, but since we do not know the day or the hour (Matthew 24:36), we must be ever ready! Just examine what Peter had to say of this metaphor in 2 Peter 3:10; he says that when the Lord comes as a thief,” the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, the elements shall melt with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therine shall be burned up.” Now I am not sure how all that could be kept a secret from anyone or how people would be able to live on the earth when it has passed away, burned up, and all the elements in it have melted.

Answer 8

Oh boy, forgive me - this is going to be long. Yeah this is thrilling. i for my section think of it has to do with the assumption of "cognitive dissonance", which in actuality says the greater a guy or woman is invested in a theory (faith, spirituality), the greater they're going to opt for to adhere with the theory no rely what data is provided to them. So the non-Catholic Christians who do misrepresent Catholic doctrine are so invested of their very own ideals that they'd desire to push away any theory that contradicts their very own. I used to do this while i replace right into a non secular Catholic: i could many times not take it sluggish to understand Protestant ideals yet i could nevertheless have self assurance that those ideals have been incorrect. Now that i'm not Christian, I understand each and everything from an objective attitude, and that i think of that's an identical with atheists. they at the instant are not invested so as that they are in a position to proceed to be objective. yet another excuse that there is misrepresentation by non-Catholic Christians is by the fact i think of many are taught that way. a pal of mine did not sense related to her Catholic church, so she went to a non-denominational church. while she went there the 1st few cases, she held no detrimental perspectives of Catholicism, yet after she have been given greater into that church, she grew to alter into form of anti-Catholic. and that i realize it replace into using fact she heard each and every person of those detrimental issues and misrepresentations approximately Catholicism from countless the individuals from the non-denominational church (she informed me what a number of them reported, so i know that's real). She did not know her very own (Catholic) faith, so she went someplace else and found out approximately Catholic doctrine from non-Catholics, and of direction it wasn't precisely what Catholics tutor. this occurs lots - Catholics do not know their very own faith and so as that they pass away and pay attention it skewed from somebody else. that's the fault of their dad and mom, for not elevating them with wisdom of their very own faith, and the fault of the Church, for not offering the classes, and their very own fault, for not investigating on their very own what that's their faith that they have got been raised with unquestionably teaches.

Answer 9

Then how are we to be kept safe from the hour of tribulation. Only one possible answer. You will be caught up. If you don't believe this I don't think you can call yourself a christian. You are to be looking for Christs return.

Answer 10

It isn't false all true Christians look for Christ to come back to the world so i don't think you can say you're a Christian and don't believe it.