Why do some die....and some don't....?

Question

Atheists say there is no God, but, I have seen and others have seen people on their death beds, dying from cancer, lung disease, heart disease, etc..then a group of people go into the hospital room, or bedroom of a home and pray for that person, and hours later, the person is starting to recover from their illness.
Now if there's no God, then what happened in those rooms, because doctors couldn't find a medical reason why are still alive, or for that matter...couldn't see why they were recoving from an illness that should have killed them. The patient's doctors bring in different doctors to check the patient, they do x-rays on them, but the doctors can't explain it. Now you explain this.....?

Answer 1

There is a medical and scientific answer there, but our knowledge is not advanced enough to explain it. I would have easily given the same answer 500 years ago with a situation that, compared to today's standard of medicine, would have been easy to explain.

You're treading on thin ice with your implication of a God who takes some and spares others. Consider the example of a tornado that demolishes one house while leaving the one next to it unscratched--would you cheer with the family whose house still stood and tell them they'd been spared by God? Could you say this while looking into the eyes of the family whose house had been demolished?

Answer 2

And for every time that coincidence occurs there are millions of times that similar prayers by similar prayer groups go unanswered. Besides, in every example you can put forth the person will ultimately die. How do you explain that? Your God cannot stop death. He always loses. He always has and he always will.

And even if it were true, why would a God be so capricious in deciding who to spare and who not. Are you implying that every other suffering family on the face of the earth deserves their pain more than others?

Finally, and more to the point, had you paid more attention in school and taken some biological science classes you would have learned about the nature of diseases, the typical, but variable, trends that illnesses follow, and the fact that just because something is not fully understood or cannot be explained, it does mean that it is magic.

I’ve ‘seen’ magicians cut people in have and put them back together and I’ve seen Penn & Teller do stuff that makes the Christian God look like a rank amateur.

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howfuzzywuzee --

Are you telling us that you never go to a Doctor (Practitioner of Evolutionary Theory) and refuse all modern medical treatments? If so, then I give you credit for at least having the courage of your conviction and not being a hypocrite like all of the other conservative Christians who deny science but are constantly running to Doctors for help.
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The Gate Keeper --

You never fell for that whole 'education' thing, did you? Better to remain ignorant than run the risk of learning the truth, huh? I hear ya. Best to keep that gate between you and knowledge closed.

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S --

"Someone" checked his pulse? Are you certain this isn't a story your grandfather told about something that happened in the 1800s?

Note: he wasn't on his death bed, so you cannot start the story that way.

Answer 3

I have seen people be healed I have been healed so needless to say I believe in the healing of God's Power. I had a friend (he was our preacher)that was on his death bed, we called the kids out of school and we all gathered around to say our good byes and we all prayed for God to have His will, the guy laid there and some one checked his pulse and there was none and we thought he was gone when all the sudden he was raised up in a sitting position and he started saying well Praise the Lord, Glory be to God..it scared us all because he was gone..He did die about a month or so later.. But the ones who has never seen it or witnessed it will never except it till it happens to them. It may never happen to them either. Doctors, some are Christians and they do believe in God' healing Power and they do give God the Glory where it should go, Luckily I am going to a Christian Doctor and he himself has experienced God's Power, but then there are the ones who flat refuses to believe in it...

Answer 4

What a load of complete and utter BS. I could make up stories about people praying to aliens who live in the sun, tell you that some were healed - would that mean aliens in the sun are real? When people pray to Allah and are healed, does that mean Allah exists? How about praying to any of the Hindu Gods? Does that mean they exist? How about Zeus?
Get the point?

Cancers sometimes go into remission. Science tells us that. So 1 in 200 times it goes into remission. Yet you give the credit to God. (Why not sun aliens?) Science and experience also tells us that when people have a certain condition, for example a certain kind of heart attack with a certain kind of blockage, a person's survival chances may be only 5%. So that means even though most people die, 1 in 20 can pull through. Now out of those 20 people, how many do you think are prayed for? 18? 19? 20? Yet only one in 20 makes it. If prayer actually worked, most should survive no?

Note that there are people who had both of their legs crushed beyond repair, and "god" has NEVER EVER healed amputees. There has never been a documented case of healing an adult person's sight who has been blind since birth. These people are prayed for all the time, but are never healed. If prayer worked, why are some injuries never healed?

Also note that because doctors cannot explain why a certain person recovered, that DOES NOT mean that you get to credit God. We KNOW that doctors don't have perfect knowledge on healing, if they did no more medical advancements could be made (no new drugs no new procedures etc; ). Just because a doctor cannot figure out why a particular patient didn't die, DOES NOT mean God or aliens or praying to a carton of milk actually saved them.

Answer 5

Anything that happens in a hospital or on a death bed to a mortal person does not in any way explain or show evidence for life after death, miraculous healings, the mechanism or power of prayer or if prayer has any power at all. There is always a medical explanation for spontanious healings. Some of these just happen because of people's immune system, doctors and scientists will tell you, etc.

All these things may happen to strengthen your faith because you believe the reason that they happened was because of divine intervention of some kind. That does not mean that medical personnell will necessarily believe that the reasons that something like that happen is supernatural. Anyone who does not believe in the supernatural can always find an alternative explanation. None of these things that you think of as miracles EVER prove there is a God to anyone but yourself.

Here is the reason: we are sent to this earth to walk by faith. which is a gift of God and is not manifest to anybody except people who exercise faith. And miracles and signs FOLLOW those who believe as a reward for that faith, even if others are blind to those signs you recognize them because you believe already. All our religious experiences have to be based on faith. That is how it is designed, and that is why arguing with nonbelievers and debating and using miracles as evidence never is evidence in the natural world, only to those who understand the supernatural. First, someone must be touched by the Holy Spirit and their eyes must be opened to see these things. Other people who resist that will never see or be convinced.

Answer 6

Every person is different, and their illness is different. Doctors don't always know what's going on in the patient's body. They have procedures and experiences that they base their conclusions on. If a doctor tells someone that they are likely to die and the person lives, the doctor was wrong. That simple. As J.P. asked, why don't you give an example?

Answer 7

Atheists can't stand it when they hear a real live healing story. I have heard of healing like this, people go in a room or hospital and pray for patients and they get better.
You know there has to be something going on, when there is people that are dying or just about dead and get up and walk out of a hospital. More power to God and Jesus.....MAY WE PRAISE HIS NAME!!!!!

Answer 8

All medicine is witchcraft, an arm of the flesh.
Jesus doesn't need any man to heal anyone. He is quite capable to do this himself, after all he created EVERYTHING.
Sure doctors can't explain it.....for they know nothing about the power of God!
Sure Atheists deny a living God, but a lot of them will use his name in vain (vulgar language). Figure that one out.......HA!

Answer 9

The short answer is that some die sooner than others. No one I know lives forever at this point in time. Death still rules as King.

Answer 10

My grandfather told us about healing of this kind, he said it was faith that healed them. He said when people know they are about to die, they make peace with God, and that kind of faith heals them.
My grandfather was a very religious person and he has done alot of praying for people.