On trains and buses standing passengers have to pay the same fare as seated passengers,?

Question

ARE THEY BEING TAKEN FOR A RIDE ?

Answer 1

The regulations clearly state that unless you pay extra to book a reserved seat, your fare is merely payment for transporting you from "A" to "B" - and even then, only when THEY think fit !-

Answer 2

yes, from their start point to their destination.

If you read the terms of the railway, your ticket covers you to get from boarding station to destination station via the advertised route and time restriction, it does not entitle you to a seat. If you require a seat then you must book a seat reservation ahead of time, subject to terms of carrage to that particular train operating company and this may add a charge onto the fare advertised.

Sorry, but those who complain about standing for 20 or so minutes in a packed train, try some of our services where you are standing for almost an hour before you can get a seat and thats because the train has reached its destination.

Answer 3

The problem is that the companies cannot differentiate between standers and sitters practically and that if they issued different price tickets some people would choose to stand even when it is not necessary and some people who wish to sit may not be able to find a seat anyway.

Also the marginal cost of carrying an extra person is likely to be the same whether they stand or sit so they have little incentive to price discriminate.

Answer 4

That is what they are paying for isn't it, When the ticket is sold who knows who will sit and who will stand. If trains and buses were all seating only and no one was allowed to stand and had to wait for the next one,there would be uproar. Some would not get to work ,or wherever they were going, at all .I think most accept it as the luck of the draw .

Answer 5

Now that you mention it lol that it silly. Although I guess it'd be too hard to charge someone less/more when the volume on the bus/train is always changing. You could get on and the bus is full but be able to get a seat at the next stop - so how do they charge that person? How would the bus driver/train people know exactly how many seats are open?

Answer 6

Well, since I've never had to stand on other than a short COMMUTER ride... I agree that you're paying for the journey and NOT the seat. Just an aside... if you're YOUNG and healthy, get up off your backside and give you seat to the elderly and women.

On longer trips (Amtrak, ACE, and in Europe), I've always had a seat, and in most cases am PAYING for a seat.

Answer 7

Yes the ticket does not guarentee you a seat.
Even when you have a seat reservation belive it or not that still does not guarentee you a seat. (printer failure, different train etc)

Your ticket only allows you to get from A to B (as stated on your ticket), it does not guarentee how (i.e. it could be a train or a bus replacement), it also does not guarentee a seat.

Remember more people can be carried when standing then when siting. Its also safer when your seated.

Answer 8

you are right in a way - everybody pays the same fares. however those in first class get seats and they pay more, also those who travel from a station a little further away (if they have the option) face a less crowded train and often have to give up a little more money and time...but hey, what does it matter as long as you get to your destination in one piece?!

Answer 9

I know this happens, and i agree, either all the seats should be taken out or when all the seats are full no one else can get on as a matter of safety! That would cripple britains transport network.
As we all know though, safety comes second to money and profits.

Answer 10

On the london underground u will be lucky to get seat on the line that goes to london from heathrow peak time on any tube orver ground its all ways going to be hard to find a seat so