This question is not for Bible scoffers or non-believers. I have or maybe had a friend who is homosexual. He said he struggled with his feelings but said God told him he was okay because he was made that way. I pointed out to him in the Bible (God's Word) in both OT and NT that homosexuality is a very grievous sin against God's design for sexual relationships. He hasn't answered me. I am not saying he is not a Christian but that his sexual practices are clearly in defiance to the Lord. I just cannot see HOW he justifies himself in accordance with the Word of God in which his statement contradicts.
Just have to add, I have my own sins to deal with also but I don't try justify them by saying "I was made that way" because while that is true to some extent in that we were all born to sin, it does not justify my sin just because some are hard to deal with.
2007-07-21 06:37:34 · 35 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
2 Timothy 4:2-5
"Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke, and encourage - with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. But you keep your head in all situations, endure hardship, do the work of the evangelist, discharge all duties of your ministry."
2007-07-21 06:46:10 · answer #1 · answered by Consuming Fire 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
I understand that you beleive in the bible - I understand that you want to live by the words of the bible. What most people don't understand is that the bible was written centuries ago and meanings and phrases used back then don't mean the same things now. Just recently for example in some areas "thats BAD" means thats really good or cultural differnces - in the UK a f*g is a cigarette - here it is a derogatory word meaning gay. So i dont believe that after centuries of language and cultural differences what has been written in the bible is be be taken for its full word value. But if you feel it should be and that you should be obeying everything the bible says please view the clip below in its entirety... and let me know if you still feel that you should obey everything the bible says.. and if you don' t please let us all know what part of the bible should you obey and what parts should you not. Hey i understand where you are coming from and I am not judging you - its just that if you and for that matter any of the religious fantatics could walk in a gay persons shoes for just ONE day they would truly understand that God made all of US - and gay people chose to be gay just as much as hetero people chose to not be. Its like a black man chosing his color or baby choosing its gender. What I don't get with all these people who are saying it's a choice is do they really think that gay people choose a lifestyle thats extremely different then the hetero lifestyle on purpose? With the prejuidice in the world, the hate , the beating ( matthew shepard) the torture (eastern cultures) etc.. WHY would anyone actively choose to be that different to choosea life that will be 10 times harder, I sure wouldn't. In regards to pro-creation - the usual statement is - "well if got wanted gay to mate they would be able to pro-create" - maybe its gods way of evening out the birth rate, his way of giving unwanted children home, his way of making sure the planet can sustain itself and not get over populated. I dont have the answers - no one does.. but I do know one thing we are all people, we are all human beings - I try my ultimate best not to make judgements about things and people i dont fully understand. We all need to show gratitude for what we have and those around us - we need to build up not tear down.. So watch the video below - it may change your mind - and if it does even the smallest bit it will make me smile inside just a little more... Hey best of luck on your own journey.... I'm sure it will be a great one..
2016-05-19 03:58:53 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Isn't a Christian still a sinner but forgiven? When you take someones right of way on the streets or tell white lies to your boss or answer Y!A questions at work you sin. All Christians agree that a tiny little sin is like a great big sin in that the punishment is the same, death. I get the distinct impression that you think this particular sin is worse than.... lets say gluttony. I've met tons (literally) of overweight Christians they don't have the ability to control what they eat, I know Christians that are smokers again out of control. Still they say they are assured of their salvation. Dear friend sitting on your glass throne in your glass church pointing at people you dislike while holding a stone to throw at them in the other hand, have you considered that God calls his children to him as they are, when they still drink, while they still do drugs, while they are still obese. You are a stumbling block and a hindrance to the Holy Ghost you had best reconsider your reckless stance. You have been warned.
Blessed Be!
2007-07-21 06:56:37 · answer #3 · answered by ♥Gnostic♥ 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Please, folks, let's try to calm down the rhetoric PRO or ANTI !!!
This person has a problem that really upsets him, and I personally understand the situation.
Regarding the Scriptures stance on homosexuality, you already understand what the Bible teaches. For those who do not understand, take a look at the website from "gotquestions.org" below.
Regarding the "Judging of others" issue, please, folks... HANG IT UP! We are and do judge others all the time, just as those of you who have said this person is "really judgmental" have just JUDGED Him to BE! Again, please see the articles below regarding judgment and understand that the warning about judging others is a warning against judging others HYPOCRITALLY. Clearly, the "questioner" has NOT judged anyone hypocritically, since he has spoken of his own sins and his own struggles with them.
Now...
All that being said, let me please advance this to you... which is something covered in the second article I cited below... and I quote:
If a believer sees another believer sinning, it is their Christian duty to lovingly and respectfully confront the person with their sin (Matthew 18:15-17). This is not judging, but rather pointing out the truth in hope of bringing repentance in the other person (James 5:20). We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15). We are to proclaim what God's Word says about sin. 2 Timothy 4:2 instructs us, "Preach the Word ; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction." We are to "judge" sin, but always with the goal of presenting the solution for sin and its consequences - the Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
.... Back to "me" again. It seems that you have "confronted" this friend already, and he is not ready to accept the truth. This is all you can do, dear... all that is left is to pray for him and for yourself, and your situation, too... to allow God to draw both of you to His love and wisdom and truth.
God bless you, dear... I feel for you... I've not only BEEN there, I AM "there." Let us struggle with our faiths together! Have a blessed day!
2007-07-21 07:13:45 · answer #4 · answered by wyomugs 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
thanx for asking this question! i am a gay guy (17 yr old) and i have been asking myself the same question for a while now! and i have also seen those scriptures you are talking about! but then i sat down and asked myself that if God really created me and i am a christian, how come i am gay? but then i prayed, and prayed.
Now i am able to answer this question, that homosexuality may be a sin, but it is not one of the 10 commandments of the Lord. so what i mean is, if someoneis stealing and i am a homosexual, then in a way he is commiting a greater sin than me! i am not trying to justify myself or something but i hope you get my point! but i know that God will forgive me one day, bcoz it is not something that i am Doing on purpose honestly!
i appriciate the fact that you Do not judge homosexuals, and God will bless you for thatcoz He says that only he is the judge!
2007-07-21 06:48:17 · answer #5 · answered by lonelyfinger 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I am Christian and homosexualism is not correct. God made the first real marriage which consisted of Adam and Eve a man and a woman. He did not make Adam and Adam. He made female and male animals so that they may have babies and keep up their species. So when God created Adam and Eve He gave them the ability to have children to build the human race.
The Ten commandments are Gods laws and when back in those times, men were with men and woman with woman, this went against Gods law and of course you have heard of Soddom and Gamorrah. Two cities wiped away from the face of the earth because of homosexualism. God is not against homosexuals because He wants them to repent, and accept Jesus as their Savior, but He is against the idea of same sex relationships. This is sin. And no person is ever born to be homosexual or lesbian. This is what a person decides for him/herself. No one makes another become homosexual or lesbian. God made me a woman so that I may marry and have children and they have children and not to have relationships with other woman. My brother changed from a man to a woman and is having a hard time of his life adjusting to it. He is in an institute for attempt of suicide. I pray for him, but he was on his own when he decided to have a sex change which also is a sin because if God made a man then he is a man physicaly and not a woman. Many change and do not care, but when Jesus comes, and they start screaming "why me, why me", then it will be too late. I just pray that they can ask for forgiveness.
2007-07-21 06:50:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Very good question. Can Christains really use the Bible to support homosexuality? Certainly not.
However, they use one of two methods to justify this sinful action.
1. What is written in the Bible was for THAT time and place; it is no longer applicable to modern man.
2. Careful reading of the Bible condemns forced homosexual activity but not two consenting adults.
See how scripture can be wrested from context?
2007-07-21 06:49:27 · answer #7 · answered by flandargo 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
We are all sinners. We all have weaknesses and temptations. Whether it be alcohol, drugs, money, sex, gambling or homosexuality, we are all tempted by some sort of sinful behavior. God will judge us when our time comes. We are not the judges. Homosexuality is a sin. We are not to judge homosexuals, but to show them the love of God so they may come to embrace the law of God. Your friend is a sinner. Yes, he was given that temptation or weakness. How he handles it is how he will be judged.
2007-07-21 06:47:53 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Because his personal Christ, and that's all you can have, informs him.
Your personal Christ doesn't agree.
Did Jesus ever say anything about homosexuality directly? I don't think so. That was St Paul in the NT.
I'll check that.
edit. No he didn't, he did say something about casting the first stone, which you rather disingenuously addressed, by saying you know you shouldn't cast the first stone, but still can't help yourself.
I'd hazard a guess that your homosexual friend is closer to Jesus than some.
2007-07-21 06:47:32 · answer #9 · answered by hog b 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
People who profess to be Christian say a lot of things. That does not make them Christian. Scripture tells us that by their fruits ye shall know them. A true Christian will believe that the New Testament as well as the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. So if God calls it abomination then it is abomination,
2007-07-21 07:01:51 · answer #10 · answered by 1saintofGod 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋