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The Bible speaks about 2 kind of hopes for men: heavenly (the little flock) and earthly (great crowd).

"Have no fear, LITTLE FLOCK, because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom." -- Luke 12:32

"... and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth." -- Revelation 14:3

"And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, because you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth." -- Revelation 5:9,10

2007-07-20 12:28:20 · 42 answers · asked by Alex 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

"After these things I saw, and, look! A GREAT CROWD, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands." -- Revelation 7:9

"The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it." – Psalm 37:29

2007-07-20 12:29:45 · update #1

"And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away." -- Revelation 21:4

2007-07-20 12:32:28 · update #2

http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/1999/2/8/article_02.htm

2007-07-20 12:52:49 · update #3

Yes, I'm one of Jehovah's Witness. You can see that at my profile. And BTW JWs aren't a cult.

2007-07-20 13:05:26 · update #4

Sorry. I meant to say I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

2007-07-20 13:10:14 · update #5

I wouldn't be the first person to answer his own question. My point is to prove what the Bible really teaches.

2007-07-20 14:09:08 · update #6

Deacon, this is for you:
"The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through." -- 2 Corinthians 4:4

"For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled." -- 2 Timothy 4:3

2007-07-20 19:09:16 · update #7

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I do not understand why some are so intent on going to heaven! that "great multitude" standing before the throne are not "lost souls" they are the same as the "other sheep" Jesus spoke of at John 10:16. Those 144,000 are the ones who would be kings and priests over the earth, . (Revelation 5:10)The earth will then be earth filled with those "meek" that Jesus said would inherit the earth (Matthew 5:5)
God has promised that this beautiful home He gave us will last forever (Ecclesiastes 1:4) He has promised to cleanse it and restore it to the way it was meant to be from the beginning.(Revelation 21:3-4) The "new heavens", Jesus Christ and the 144,000, and the "new earth" the rest of loyal faithful mankind, will be united in righteousness. (Isaiah 65:17, 2Peter 3:13) The entire universe will return the harmonious condition it was from the start. I look forward to the time when everything having breath will praise Jah! (Psalms 150:6)

2007-07-20 13:22:16 · answer #1 · answered by babydoll 7 · 8 6

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2016-12-24 03:12:09 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The rest of mankind will live on Earth forever. All the righteous ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it. Psalms 37:29.

Also Alex and to all, Jesus did said at Matt. 5:5 that the mild tempered ones will inherit the earth. That will be kind of hard if they all lived in heaven.

The earth will also be here until time indefinite. ECC 1:4

You are also correct about only 144,000 living forever in Heaven. Rev. 14:1-3.

P.S. Alex, don't listen to these anti christs, You asked a really good Question, and an easy one too. LOL


P.P.S JW's are not a cult, Becasue a cult is a small religious group, isolated from society. How can they be if they have over 17,000,000 people attending there memorial every year? Which is larger then most religions and larger then 162 countries in the world. Also if they were isolated form society, then why Jehovah's Witnesses spend over 1,400,000,000 hours preaching to the public every year.

2007-07-20 17:07:06 · answer #3 · answered by JW 3 · 1 2

The rest as we know have an earthly hope, the meek who will inherit the earth. This is a good thing.

I wonder why people STILL think the 144,000 are made up of Jews. Do you all actually compare the Tribes or is that just something someone told you?

Rev. 7:4-8: “I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel: . . . Judah . . . Reuben . . . Gad . . . Asher . . . Naphtali . . . Manasseh . . . Simeon . . . Levi . . . Issachar . . . Zebulun . . . Joseph . . . Benjamin.” (These cannot be the tribes of natural Israel because there never was a tribe of Joseph, the tribes of Ephraim and Dan are not included in the list here, and the Levites were set aside for service in connection with the temple but were not reckoned as one of the 12 tribes. See Numbers 1:4-16.)

That's quite plain. Now look at you Bible again. Do those of the “great crowd” referred to at Revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?

Revelation does not say of them, as it does of the 144,000, that they are “bought from the earth” to be with Christ on heavenly Mount Zion.—Rev. 14:1-3.

The description of them as “standing before the throne and before the Lamb” indicates, not necessarily a location, but an approved condition. (Compare Revelation 6:17; Luke 21:36.) The expression “before the throne” (Greek, e·no´pi·on tou thro´nou; literally, “in sight of the throne”) does not require that they be in heaven. Their position is simply “in sight” of God, who tells us that from heaven he beholds the sons of men.—Ps. 11:4; compare Matthew 25:31-33; Luke 1:74, 75; Acts 10:33.

The “great crowd in heaven” referred to at Revelation 19:1, 6 is not the same as the “great crowd” of Revelation 7:9. The ones in heaven are not described as being “out of all nations” or as ascribing their salvation to the Lamb; they are angels. The expression “great crowd” is used in a variety of contexts in the Bible.—Mark 5:24; 6:34; 12:37

We are not a cult. That's just silly. Some define sect to mean a group that has broken away from an established religion. Others apply the term to a group that follows a particular human leader or teacher. The term is usually used in a derogatory way. Jehovah’s Witnesses are not an offshoot of some church but include persons from all walks of life and from many religious backgrounds. They do not look to any human, but rather to Jesus Christ, as their leader.

A cult is a religion that is said to be unorthodox or that emphasizes devotion according to prescribed ritual. Many cults follow a living human leader, and often their adherents live in groups apart from the rest of society. The standard for what is orthodox, however, should be God’s Word, and Jehovah’s Witnesses strictly adhere to the Bible. Their worship is a way of life, not a ritual devotion. They neither follow a human nor isolate themselves from the rest of society. They live and work in the midst of other people. Our meetings are not secret, anyone can come and go as they please. It really is an old, lame bit of name calling.

2007-07-20 16:16:34 · answer #4 · answered by Suzette R 6 · 1 3

The 144,000 are the remnant of God the ones that come back here to reign with him you are not lost all you have to do is accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you may not be in the remnant but you will go to heaven Be blessed and jsut get a relationship with God he will handle the rest Bless you !!!!!!!!!

2013-10-08 15:54:06 · answer #5 · answered by God Child 4 · 0 0

May I add a thought for the group to ponder?

Of course there is probably only a small percentage of the earths total, past, present, and perhaps future population, that will place any crediance in the "Ten Comanments". Violation of any of the comandments is per the Bible reason for exculance from a place in the heaven of hereafter. Of course much of society plans on "getting in on a free pass thanks to Jesus, something we should give careful thought about. However even working with only this small percentage of followers, compare, historical, records and current records of the worlds population, if the only creiteria was the manner in which the worlds population has been, raped starved, tortured and in other ways killed before their natural life time has expired, just how many of what is left, dare expect or hope to be found acceptable in to inter "Heaven".

That 144,000 figure may very well be meant to attract the attention of many whom wish to live life and disregard the results of their life decisions.

When a sober look is taken of the worlds population and the manner in which we have lived, it would seem to be a surprise that 144,000 persons could be found really acceptable.

Perhaps the worlds population should be doing more worring about their own possible acceptance, and working harder to "make the team".

2007-07-20 13:21:13 · answer #6 · answered by quietgrandpaforchating 2 · 0 4

NOWHERE in the bible does it say that only 144,000 people go to heaven. Thats an ERROR. The scriptures you are speaking of (in Revelation) deal with the 12 tribes of Judah, and 12,000 righteous from each tribe that didnt prostitue themselves to idols and so on. You need to go further back into the Old Testament to understand the reference in Revelation.
The BIBLE SAYS anyone can go to heaven if they make the right choice. ITs open to everyone, not just a select number.

2007-07-20 23:58:20 · answer #7 · answered by sugarplumlulu™ ♥ 3 · 4 2

Have you not read, little one, in the Revealing of Jesus Christ

Chapter 7:9 (KJV)
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

And from the NWT:

After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.

Are you sure the bible says 144,000?
Can a man or woman number 144,000?
How many people is it before a census becomes "such as no man can number"?
6.5 billion, 200 trillion, How many?

Do not let this get twisted it into some earthly throne or lamb or some such
There is one Throne and one Lamb and the Throne and the Lamb are in heaven.
Don't get cross eyed and be blinded by double talking goobly guke and start believing malarkey - read it for yourself and pray.

Little one, look into the next verses:

13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” 14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 “For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 16 “They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes.”

They serve God - where? "In His Temple". (verse 15) - and is God's Temple is? See 11:19.

Let us look at the record. -

2007-07-20 19:57:38 · answer #8 · answered by ander 4 · 4 2

Harpazo = Rapture

END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY

The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.

The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.

The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.

The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.

The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).

The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).

The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).

The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).

The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).

The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!

The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.


THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)

The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.

There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.

A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.

The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.

During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.


MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)

The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.

Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.

The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.

The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.

The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.

The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).

Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.


THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)

In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.

Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.

The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.

At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.


THE MILLENNIUM

The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).

At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).


THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT

The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).


THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)

Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.


God’s Plan of Salvation for Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do

2015-03-23 05:10:35 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

No that is incorrect. The 144,000 (from the 12 tribes of Israel)will be those who gather with Jesus are the elect servants that Jesus will use to preach the everlasting gospel and millions of people will receive Jesus Christ as their Savior.

2007-07-20 13:02:26 · answer #10 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 7 2

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