Secular nation founded by seculars and full of Christians.
2007-07-20 09:01:32
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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It depends on how you want to define a "Christian Nation"
Does Christian Nation mean that the majority of our citizens are Christian? If so, then we are a "Christian Nation"
Or does it mean that our laws and Constitution are founded on "Christian Principles"? If so, then no..we are NOT a "Christian Nation"
Being founded BY Christians is not the same as being founded AS a "Christian Nation"
Many of the previous people to answer this question say that we were founded on "Christian Principles". Which ones?
Equality? Hardly...up until the founding of the United States most governments were set up under the "Christian Principle" of Divine Right. The King was King because God said so and that made him superior to the commoners.
Democracy? Again, no....Divine Right meant just that...the King was the representative of God therefore his word was law. No one else had a say.
The First Amendment to our Constitution (Worship any God you want...or no God at all) runs directly in opposition to the First Commandment (Worship ONLY the God of Abraham and Moses)
The Constitution specifically states that no religious test of any kind will be given to those elected to office....hardly something you would do if you were trying to found a "Christian Nation"
The treat of Tripoli (1791) says that the Government of the United States was in no way founded on the Christian Religion.
What religions the Founding Fathers believed in is totally irrelevent...what is written in the Constitution is what matters. And NONE of it was founded on any "Christian Principles"
2007-07-20 17:11:14
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answered by nwolfe35 2
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The answer to that question would determine whether or not they have a double standard. You have made a premature accusation.
First of all, if the pledge said "one nation under Allah" we would not be offended. If it was CHANGED to say that, then we would. In other words, if this nation was founded on Islam then there would be no reason to be offended that the pledge said that, but it wasn't founded on Islam, it was founded on Christianity.
I'm sorry if you students of revisionist history don't agree, but it's simply the facts. Whether or not the founding fathers claimed to be Christian as such is not the issue: the principles they founded the country on--it's laws, and the philosophies contained in the constitution--are distinctly Christian. And why not? They came from a Christian society.
In addition, there are more Christians than any other religious group in this country. If our ancestors weren't Christian then where did all of these Christians come from?
Conclusion: this is a Christian nation... for now...
2007-07-20 16:03:28
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answer #3
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answered by Daniel A: Zionist Pig 3
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Understand that most Christians confuse the colonization of the Americas with the founding of the nation.
The original settlers were overwhelmingly Christian, and were moving specifically for that reason. In this sense, many of the colonies were founded as Christian colonies. This started to see a rapid downfall, however, after the Salem Witch Trials, when the governor of Massachusetts forbade spectral evidence when the girls pointed their murderous fingers at his wife.
When the founding fathers came together, most were Christian in one form or another, but many of the authors of the documents were in fact Deists. So why did the Christians sign off on Deistic texts?
Had any one of the Christian groups won, the other groups would have been slighted. The Deists really ultimately had no stake in that war, so were a logical neutral position, and one that ensured that no matter what faith was believed, it could be practiced in good faith so long as the civility of the society was maintained. Thus, the Christians among the founding fathers knowingly and intentionally signed off on Deistic documents, to ensure their own continued freedom to worship as they saw fit.
The physical colonization was Christian in origin, however, the legalistic founding of the USA (the Declaration of Indepedance and the Constitution of the USA) was Deistic in nature, and did not describe any one true correct religion. In fact, the Declaration references only once the Creator (a term Deists use since it's the only definition they ascribe to the divine), and the Constitution never mentions a creator at all.
Further, Washington signed off on the Treaty of Tripoli which outright stated that the USA was in no way founded as a Christian nation -- which is true. The nation was founded on Deistic principles, even though the colonies were founded on christian principles.
Once you separate the two types of involved 'foundings', the issue becomes very clear.
2007-07-20 16:02:55
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answered by Anonymous
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This would be a Christian nation if most of the people were actually Christians. I have never met an actual Christian, just people who claim to be Christians. All of the so-called Christian laws are also laws contained in the Qu'ran, the Bhagavad-Gita, the Torah, and other scriptures. I would not be the least upset if our pledge said "Allah" instead of just "God", because they are one and the same. There is only one God, and He is the God of every living entity. His laws are not subject to change according to what people call Him.
They are absolute. As for atheists, just because they are not willing to submit to any authority higher than man, does not mean that such an authority does not exist. The majority of the world, not just the USA, accepts the laws of God as the standard by which we all behave or misbehave. Our laws are based on the laws of God, which are expressed in the bible and all other known religious texts.
2007-07-20 16:08:00
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answered by Anonymous
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America by the Bible is the same as Israel was during the days of the Kings of Israel during the Old Testament. Our history has been very simular as to the number of Kings before their demise. When the people came to this country Americans claimed to own shore to shore very much like Israel had it's promised land the founding fathers claim the United States away from the people settled here they called pagans (Indians). The simularities are too numerous to ignore. But because the Nation has turned from the One True God, now God is allowing us to reap the harvest of all of our ways. Earthquakes, floods, evil children, murders, violence, destruction, rioting, Satan worship, witchcraft, and we are the example of a Christian Nation. 9-11 is the beginning of our woes, the politically system has sold our Nation to the highest bidder, and we sit and wonder what happened; Genesis 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Genesis 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Notice how this could be describing today just as well.
And since no person will repent of their evil, this forces God to repent; Gen6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And if you notice the numbers of this verse 66
but look through the Bible for simular verses and you will see how 70 of Jesus Christ disciples toke the mark of the beast;
John6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
So yes we were a Christian Nation at one time but I am not so sure today.
2007-07-20 16:26:25
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answered by sirromo4u 4
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It was founded by Christians and our laws are mostly based on Christian standards. The majority of our population is Christian but there is nothing "official" that makes us a Christian nation. However the freedoms we have guarantee that people are not forced to participate in the pledge of allegiance if they don't want to. That is their right. However the people who do want to say the pledge should not be told they can't do it in certain places because that would infringe on their rights.
2007-07-20 16:07:06
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answered by jim h 6
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This nation has strayed a long way from its foundations. It was, at one time, fair to say this was a Christian nation; ie, the United States were founded and populated mostly by Christian people, upon Christian principles (though admittedly there were flaws in practice). But as of this moment, I would not say it was a Christian nation. Neither the majority of its populace, nor the majority of its leadership, now follow Christian principles.
2007-07-20 16:06:00
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answered by hoff_mom 4
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Christians like to believe so. They can completely ignore the fact that many of the founding fathers were, in fact, gnostics. Then they trot out the "evidence" that there has never been a Jewish president, or a Muslim, or an Atheist. Of course, there has never been a woman, an African American or a Hispanic president either, so we are apparently equal opportunity discriminators.
This country was founded on the concept of "Freedom of Religion". One of those freedoms, regardless of how hard they try to say otherwise, is the right to freedom FROM religion as well.
**EDIT: Rev Albert, perhaps if you could get UNdisputed history right, you would have more credibility for your answer. Madison wasn't 2nd, he was number 4.
2007-07-20 16:04:50
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answer #9
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answered by mikalina 4
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Let's get over ourselves here. Whether it's a christian nation or not is irrelavent. It says one nation under God. Deal with it. Let's stop crying over spilled milk. If you want it to say One nation under Allah then move to a nation that is one nation under Allah. Nothing against muslims or anything, but let's stop trying to stir the pot. This is a nation where we have freedom of religion. It is not the other way around: Freedom from religion. It says One nation under God to show we have that freedom. If you want to call him Allah, then so be it.
2007-07-20 16:17:11
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answered by mntexn 2
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I would say good question, yet under the authority of "allah" and all that intels, you would not be allowed to complain about it. At least the under God lets you freely be offended. so it would not exactly be a double standard. But at least I understand where you are coming from.
2007-07-20 16:27:58
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answered by The true face of religion 4
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