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Obviously the transcribers of gods word weren't infallible to grammatical errors so why would one assume that these words are in fact the 'word of God'? All thoughts welcome. Namaste

2007-07-20 07:21:48 · 27 answers · asked by Yogini 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Yes, I do know what namaste means but thank you for the little jab.......I don't use words I don't understand.

2007-07-20 07:31:44 · update #1

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The wages of sin is awakening !!!

2007-07-20 07:40:06 · answer #1 · answered by ۞Aum۞ 7 · 3 1

Well lets look at the Old Test. In those days people had to bring a lamb once a year to the temple to be killed for there sins. Since the lamb was not completely perfect they had to do this once a year. Something had to die for there sins to be forgiven, and it was the blood of that animal that washed away the sins. Now the reason I showed you the Old Test. is many believe these scriptures to be more true than the New Test. The same thing in the happened in the New as well, but it was Jesus who died in our place. The wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal Life through Jesus Christ.

2007-07-20 14:34:55 · answer #2 · answered by iwant_u2_wantme2000 6 · 1 0

Are you disputing the concept of the verse or just the grammar?

Jesus often spoke in parables. The concept of a parable is easier to translate into different languages where word for word translations may be harder to understand.

Here is the rest of the verse as well:

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

2007-07-20 14:34:58 · answer #3 · answered by Mike 3 · 0 0

Anyone copying anything may make a grammatical error.
Does that make the whole to become phony and unreliable?
Hardly.
The wages of sin is death. Where is there a grammatical mistake in that? It says exactly what it means. The mistake is in not believing it.

2007-07-20 14:26:43 · answer #4 · answered by Jed 7 · 2 0

What does grammer have to do with the meaning?

For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son for whomsoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

You know Moses, he wasn't eloquent at all, that's why God used his brother Aaron because God knows the heart of man and often he (man) is a sin sniffer.

God isn't in the business of being concerned with grammer, His concern is saving souls for His Kingdom.

Why take something so profound and dilute it's meaning because they didn't use proper grammer? I pity your soul.

2007-07-20 14:25:42 · answer #5 · answered by Gir 5 · 2 0

At the time the KJ Bible was translated 400 years ago, wages was considered a singular word. Like a "pair of pants" today is one piece of clothing. So at the time it was tranalted, that was correct grammar.

2007-07-20 14:36:58 · answer #6 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 0 0

Yea well anyone can pull out one little line of scripture and try to make it make sense but it won't unless it's taught from the time and context it was written... it's so wrong just to pull it up and question it as if you think you know something.....

Too often this happens where someone will go, Nice "god" bla bla bla, and have no idea....

This is true the wages of sin is death but then if you read comparitive scripture.... that is why he had to send his son.

2007-07-20 14:25:08 · answer #7 · answered by sassinya 6 · 2 1

Well, for starters, the sentence is not incorrect. There is a difference between "sin" and "sins." They are not the same thing.

Ok, this is alot to explain, but I'll take a stab at it...

There is a bigger Spirtual Picture, and also a Physical Picture.

This is the bigger Spiritual Picture:

"Sin" refers to a "root," whereas "sins" refer to "fruits." (Picture an apple tree for example)

Because of Adam and Even and the fall of man, sin was introduced to the world. As a result, all humans are born with a root of sin. That is why we are "fleshly" "sinful" creatures at heart.

So, going back to the apple tree illustration, you do not see the tree's roots, but you do see the fruits. If you have apple tree roots, you will have apples as fruits. In the same way, if you have a root of sin (singular) you will have fruits of sins (plural). Again like the tree we do not see the roots, but we do see the fruits. You may not see a root of sin in someone, but you see thier sins (wrong actions).

On the other hand, when a person accepts Christ, what happens is the root of sin is destroyed and God gives us a new root of righteousness. So if the root of sin dies, we no longer see it's fruit (sins) in the person's life, and if a new root of righteousness is born, we see fruits of righteousness in their life.

Then why aren't Christians perfect or better people? Becasue this does not all happen instantly. Fot the root of sin to die, it's a long process that takes the rest of our life. the progression is faster in some people than in others, but it's still a process. At the same time, the root of God's righteousness does not just appear, but it grows and develops. So, the believer is not going to be perfect but a work in process until God perfects all in Heaven.

So as believers, we are still going to have sins as we go through the process....but we do have God's promise and freedom from sin (through faith).


Jesus talked about this. He said "You will know them by their fruit." He said a good tree does not produce bad fruit, and a bad tree does not produce good fruit.

Basically we all begin as bad trees, but when we allow Jesus into our heart, He transforms us. He gives us His good things.

Anyway, going back to your original quote "The wages of sin is death." If you have not acccepted Christ, you are in sin. You have sin. If you keep it. You will recieve wages for it. "The wages of sin is death." Yeah. You have sin. You die.

But praise God for the rest of it.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
(Romans 6:23)

The bottom line is we are all born sinners and we all deserve death and hell.

"But the GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"

We all deserve death and hell, but God is right there offering us free eternal life instead. We can either take the life or say no.





This is the smaller Physical Picture

We were born in sin, so we will physically die. But if you accept Christ, you are "born again" in His righteousness and that leads to eternal life.

So what happens after our physical death? Well if you have Christ, you get to be with Him in Heaven. If you have not, well all that will be left will be hell. God is a gentleman. He gives all, but forces nothing. If you said no to His life, then you said no. It was not He who said no but you.




Might I suggest go back and revisit the book of Romans (in it's entirety), and reevaluate.

2007-07-20 15:49:05 · answer #8 · answered by Consuming Fire 7 · 1 0

Actually this was correct English at the time the Vulgate was translated from Latin into English.

"Wages" was a singular noun, therefore the correct form of the verb "to be", present tense, is the word "is".

2007-07-20 14:25:53 · answer #9 · answered by Granny Annie 6 · 2 0

think about it like this........if I tell you that I like the color blue......and then you tell your friend that I like the color blue. then your friend asks you "what shade of blue is it that he likes?" You say, "well he said blue....so its probably dark blue"........at that point....you havent actually lied to your friend, although you could possibly be misleading them.....and even though you just assumed that I meant 'dark blue' and you told your friend it was 'dark blue'.......logically and honestly, you could think that you were telling the truth and those were the words of me......and although technically that would be the truth.....my actual choice of color still actually could be light blue.
In other words.....the bible is not written to state that these words are the exact words of God. If that was the case then we would then wonder why God himself didnt just write the Bible.
The words in the Bible are the words of men who, in one way or another, felt that they had got the message that they were stating FROM God....Therefore they could be reffered to as the 'words of God'.
Those guys were just regular people just like you and me who had developed a relationship with God, just like you or I could do......and then when they got an inspiration or a feeling to promote a positive message.....they just automatically felt that it had to come from God, just like you or I would do if we were deeply religious and carried the same faith in God that most of these writers did.

2007-07-20 15:17:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am so sorry you feel this way. Perhaps if you continue reading the entire book you will find out more about the spirit of the text and less to criticize.

2007-07-20 14:39:01 · answer #11 · answered by mizmead 4 · 0 0

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