Quoted from this site:
http://www.carm.org/doctrine/whatisthetrinity.htm
"Each has a will, loves, and says "I", and "You" when speaking. The Father is not the same person as the Son who is not the same person as the Holy Spirit who is not the same person as the Father"
Is it true?
2007-07-19 20:51:35 · 16 answers · asked by Kimo 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one entity.
To my understanding, being God is different from being Human. Being God, he's able to separate the different parts of his being if he wants to. (For what or why, I have no idea.) Each part, while acting independently from the others, agrees with the other parts 100% - the will of one being the will of the the other parts as well as the whole.
2007-07-19 21:09:09 · answer #1 · answered by CJohn317 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
No! There is no trinity in the Bible, this was a dogma that a council of men came up with about 200 years after the last pages of the bible were written under command from the ruler of the Roman Empire, Constantine. This was to come up with a National religion both the pagans and Christians could live with, or what we commonly call the marriage of church and state, and also why the America fathers tryed to leave religious freedom in the Constitution was to avoid the pit falls of what happened under the Roman Empire.
Constantine was never a real Christian but was sprinkled on his death bed, but is know for starting the first organized church in Rome. He sympathized with the Christians because one of his soldiers had a dream if they painted crosses on their shields they would win a battle that was important.
The Bible teaches plainly that Jesus Christ was the creator of all things and that knowledge was a mystery until Jesus came and died; Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
So you see now how Jesus Christ created everything and is even called the father, the Son, and Might God in the Old Testament; Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
2007-07-20 04:30:45 · answer #2 · answered by sirromo4u 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three persons of the Triune God. All answer to the Father about what to do. We don't fully understand the three-part Godhead, but we will one day.
2007-07-26 18:21:33 · answer #3 · answered by tanker 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
With out going into to much theology and detailed terms, the Holy Trinity is a multiple step process...(Sorry, this is how I explain this to my religion class)
Picture the person whom you hold most dear...(I'll use my own father for this, Eugene)...
Eugene is a father who's main goal in life is to see happiness in his children's lives...to see them well and guide them, and teach them. With is children, his first concern is their learning - so he encourage along with discourages...his will is through his want - the best for his children.
Eugene is also a son and a brother. His main goal is to be there when you stumble...pick you up and be your buddy, confider, his sibling's buffer between them and Eugene the father.
Eugene, the Holy Ghost, is a friend. His main goal is to listen and allow you good feelings when you are doing well, and bad feelings of when you might be in trouble. His goal is to be the leaning post that never goes away.
2007-07-28 03:32:20 · answer #4 · answered by Stephanie M 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We can never understand how Father, Son, and Holy Spirit can be three and yet one.
For my part, I have long ago given up any desire to understand this great mystery,
for I am perfectly satisfied that, if I could understand it, it would not be true, because
God, from the very nature of things, must be incomprehensible.
Spurgeon
2007-07-20 04:03:38 · answer #5 · answered by severina418 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Harper’s Bible Dictionary
Baal / Bel ,
“ translates into English as Lord
offspring of El, (Hebrew for God)
worshiped as a triad / trinity.”
Where did I hear this teaching recently?
Sounds like a teaching of Satan, What do you think?
Who is fulfilling this prophecy?
(Jeremiah 23:27) 27 They are thinking of making my people forget my name by means of their dreams that they keep relating each one to the other, just as their fathers forgot my name by means of Ba´al.
Even if ‘Sam’ is a Grandfather, Father, and Son,
Sam still has only one will, unless he is mentally disturbed
or Sam is three different individuals. Sam Sr., Sam Jr., & Sam III.
Not my will but my Father's.
Jesus said he does his Father's will because he Loves him.
According to 2 Cor 4:4, if we believe Jesus is more than an image, then we have been blinded by Satan.
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2007-07-21 20:36:51 · answer #6 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the trinity does not make any sense whatsoever. How can Jesus (pbuh) say he doesnt know when the hour is if he is part of God? Does the father know things that the son doesnt? Why does Jesus pray to the Father? Why does Jesus say to the Father, 'may your will be done', do they have a different will? yet they are one God? lol
2007-07-20 03:57:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
You are correct both Jesus and his father both have their own will.
"Yet not as I will, but as you will" (Matthew 26:39)
Strange that in the trinity that Jesus who has his own will can be disobedient to his father. Jesus was exalted because of his obedience.
Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death.
What would have happen to the trinity if Jesus was disobedient? Can you imagine God being disobedient to himself?
2007-07-23 11:58:24 · answer #8 · answered by keiichi 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
NO! THE TRINITY IS MADE UP OF THREE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE:
1. GOD THE FATHER!
2.GOD, THE SON!
3.GOD,THE HOLY GHOST! (HE IS THE TESTIFER, OF THE OTHER TWO!)
AND EACH OF THE THREE, MOST ASSUREDLY HAVE THEIR OWN MINDS, THEIR OWN OPINIONS, AND THEIR OWN WILL!.
2007-07-27 00:18:58 · answer #9 · answered by jaded 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
(PLEASE LISTEN) (THANKS) Each Has His own job working in unison for the same cause.But believe me they do have different traits.And it is all GOOD.
1.God the Father comes to you when you get off track.He is just as a Father would be more stern.
2Jesus is like a brother,a buddy but still completely Holy and you have to show Him complete respect because He is God.
3 The Holy Spirit comforts you and puts it in your heart what you need to do at the exact time you need to do it.and if you obey good things happen for eveyone involved.
2007-07-20 03:55:17 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋