Atheists how can you say this with a straight face?

Question

An Oxford professor said that to believe the universe was created by chance is akin to believing that a tornado can go through a scrap yard and put together a boeing 747. And on every seat of the plane is a dictionary in a different language. Also there is fuel in the tank, and keys in the egnition. (all put together by the tornado)

how can you say the universe has no creator and keep a straight face?

Answer 1

What seems impossible in terms of human time-scales can become unavoidable in terms of the time-scales of the universe.

Answer 2

[Caution! You head is in the clouds. Please remove head from clouds and reconsider statement made.]

I'll be courteous and tell you what's wrong with that argument shall I?

1) Nobody's claiming that the Universe was created from chance. This is a false assumption about Big Bang theory.

2) The Universe is nowhere near as particular as the scenario you described. A Boeing 747 cannot form naturally from a heap of scrap yet a sun CAN form naturally from a large amount of matter.

Basically you're arguing based on your ignorance of the facts. How you can do THAT and keep a straight face I have no idea. It's incredibly stupid to claim that you know everything.

Answer 3

Because that analogy is terribly flawed. Let me give you a better one. I've got an iPod. I'll make a playlist of 500 songs, put it on "shuffle", and let it play through the 500 songs, in random order. Then, after it does, I'll calculate the odds of it playing those songs in exactly that order, and claim that because the odds were so slim, it couldn't possibly have been on shuffle. Would I be correct? Well, like it or not, that's what your argument comes down to. I'm not saying I know there is no creator, but there doesn't have to be one, and that's why. I really don't care if the person who said that was an Oxford professor. I don't care if they had an IQ of 1000. It doesn't make them right about everything, or make the point itself more valid.

Answer 4

Because 'who made the creator?' if one ever existed would be an even more perplexing question.

It seems most gullible Xians are willing to believe the incredibly far-fetched 'the invisible sky critter has always existed' story and the 'GODDIDIT' story rather than entertain something much more credible.

Keep a straight face? I like that. LOL.
There's real good money to be made from religion - Treating it or Pushing it - IF you can keep a straight face.

Do I think I'm smart because I'm an Atheist?
No!
I'm an Atheist because I'm smart.

Answer 5

If you have to use false analogies, at least get them right.

Claim CF002.1:

Order does not spontaneously form from disorder. A tornado passing through a junkyard would never assemble a 747.
Source:

Hoyle, Fred, 1983. The Intelligent Universe. New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston, pp. 18-19.
Response:

This claim is irrelevant to the theory of evolution itself, since evolution does not occur via assembly from individual parts, but rather via selective gradual modifications to existing structures. Order can and does result from such evolutionary processes.

Hoyle applied his analogy to abiogenesis, where it is more applicable. However, the general principle behind it is wrong. Order arises spontaneously from disorder all the time. The tornado itself is an example of order arising spontaneously. Something as complicated as people would not arise spontaneously from raw chemicals, but there is no reason to believe that something as simple as a self-replicating molecule could not form thus. From there, evolution can produce more and more complexity.

Answer 6

Claim CF002.1:
Order does not spontaneously form from disorder. A tornado passing through a junkyard would never assemble a 747.
Source:
Hoyle, Fred, 1983. The Intelligent Universe. New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston, pp. 18-19.
Response:

1. This claim is irrelevant to the theory of evolution itself, since evolution does not occur via assembly from individual parts, but rather via selective gradual modifications to existing structures. Order can and does result from such evolutionary processes.

2. Hoyle applied his analogy to abiogenesis, where it is more applicable. However, the general principle behind it is wrong. Order arises spontaneously from disorder all the time. The tornado itself is an example of order arising spontaneously. Something as complicated as people would not arise spontaneously from raw chemicals, but there is no reason to believe that something as simple as a self-replicating molecule could not form thus. From there, evolution can produce more and more complexity.

Answer 7

What was the Oxford professor a professor of? I'm going to guess not biology. I also bet the professor didn't misspell ignition.
God told me evolution exists. See how just typing something doesn't make it true?
Just post one piece of evidence you have that creationism is a legitimate theory without using the Bible or a church based website.

Answer 8

Drink

What's he a professor of?

How can you ask the question with a straight face?

Why don't you wait until science has fully resolved the origin of the universe before criticising the explanation?

Answer 9

simple, i don't "believe the universe was created by chance".

you're speaking of fred hoyle, i believe, who was an astronomer talking about biology. just because he was an oxford professor doesn't automatically make him an authority on everything. what you're asking here is a bit like trusting a historian to repair your car - there's not much reason to think he has any idea what he's doing.

nevertheless, it seems that he did get quite far into the field for someone who was basically an amateur. some may find this critique of his book interesting:

http://home.planet.nl/~gkorthof/kortho46.htm

Answer 10

That same Oxford professor was promoting that life form in space and was carried to Earth on comets. Further, he never said fueled and there are no ignition keys for 747s.

Thank you for demonstrating that Creationists cannot defend their position without misrepresentations and lies.

Answer 11

As opposed to the magic, invisible sky daddy who just exists and seemingly created the entire immense universe just so he could stick one tiny little planet full of short lived creatures whose entire purpose in life and death is just to worship him.

Yeah that sounds far more logical than your inappropriate anaology

You do realise that scientists come up with theories based on evidence right? they don't just go - "Oh this sounds fun!".