The amazing thing about Christianity is that the scriptures refer to the Holy Ghost as female. The original language is romantic so like French everything has a gender and before being translated into English (a non-romantic language) The Holy Spirit is female.
There are other scriptures some of us value that come from around those times.
The Gnostic gospels tell us a different story of creation.
The Holy Spirit is called Wisdom or Sophia and before the universe was created she was the consort to Christ.
She was ejected from Christ when she tried to experience the Father, who is unknowable.
In isolation she created the elements then matter and soul but in so doing formed the Demiurge who was blind to Sophia and considering itself alone said, "Let there be light."
The Demiurge moved on the face of the deep and saw it void and without form, for matter and soul were already made.
The Demiurge or Jehovah created the universe and angels both bright and dark.
2007-07-19
20:22:49
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We (all people) are Sophia trapped in matter by Demiurge. Christ came to free us.
So in Gnostic theology Jehovah is evil and the devils master and the big lie is that most Christians worship him and not the Father who is an entirely different God.
That kind of makes Christians the Satan worshipers don’t it?
2007-07-19
20:23:01 ·
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The greek word was pneuma feel free to investigate further.
2007-07-19
20:37:45 ·
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The Gnostics were not a small group of believers, they were a fast growing population in France, called the Cathars they were targeted by the Catholics and almost wiped out in the first inquisition Martin Luther and the Protestants (or protesters) were tolerated only because he didn't hold the Heretical Gnostic views. The proof of Gnostic heresy is from other people, none of you have read these texts to know from your heart they are false. It’s a savage trick that many paid in blood for and you were all clueless.
2007-07-19
20:49:53 ·
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Cheeky may God Bless your every desire. I know there are MANY GOOD Christians.
Christians like prophesy and coincidences so they should consider that a great number of Gnostic texts were found in 1945, the year Hitler was killed and the decision was made to create a modern Israel. It would take two years for it to be fulfilled. Do you think its coincidence to rediscover these powerful theologies?
2007-07-19
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Christians who are rigid in their beliefs fear the unknown. The unknown to them is darkness, which is feminine energy (yin). Darkness has been identified and associated with the opposite of God, which has been defined as Satan.
These Christians deny the feminine aspects of God because it would deplete their perception that He is all powerful. Women's lib and all that aside, Christian perception of Source is masculine (old with white beard to prove the point). Within each of us, and within our Source, there is a piece of the other -- it is yin and yang, no matter what language we speak, and no matter what God or Goddess we worship.
What I find fascinating is that the fear these Christians experience will be their downfall, because fear is such a powerful energy that it enhances our ability to manifest physically that which we think and feel. The more they fear the Devil, the more they bring that energy to them. Woe unto them is all I have to say.
I love your depth of knowledge. Please, teach us more!
2007-07-20 08:31:13
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answered by Shihan 5
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OMG, I think I may have Gnostic beliefs. Can someone be Pagan and Gnostic at the same time? Check out this question I asked two weeks ago, and you'll see that I've been searching for the very information you just gave. Thank you very much!
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArDezemql_Z_VZQZa7MxsVDsy6IX?qid=20070707020620AA0m03h
By the way, I really liked the best answer I chose, but I just thought it was a Catholic (I thought Apocryphon was a typo for Apocrypha) with a nicer way of looking at the whole thing. I unfortunately didn't look up the scripture, because so many Christians take Biblical scripture out of context or purposely misinterpret it, even to make it sound nicer. It was actually Gnostic scripture, wasn't it? Well, I'm definitely going to look it up now!
Blessings,
Vitamin
2007-07-19 23:18:16
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answered by Tea 6
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That is a problem with a religion of exclusivity.
Christians are taught that those who are not with Christ are against him. They believe that anyone not a Christian is being deceived by the devil. There is no room in their faith for those who do not believe in Christ to be inherently good because they are taught that we all are inherently evil.
Christians believe that anyone who has ever told a lie is a liar, that anyone who has ever taken anything from parent, brother or sister is a thief. That anyone who has ever looked at another with passion is an adulturer.
Christians do not believe that a person can become honest and no longer be a liar or thief. They do not believe that a person can come to honor through effort, that a person can live justly without Christ.,
As such, any religion that does not teach Christ is automatically unjust and devoid of the benefit of God. They are, by Christian definition, Satanic.
Such was the attitude of the Germans toward the Jews, Americans of Islam at present, and any other group which seeks to demonize another and make them less than human. It is unfortunate, but it is the first step in genocide. Do Christians intend genocide toward other faiths; They seem to believe that God will exact divine and eternal retribution against those who do not believe. They seem, in their prosletyzing efforts to seek to change, rather than kill on many, if not all fronts. Still, non-Christians are considered as something less than Christians; Damned, deceived, unable or unwilling to see truth.
Truly, no union is possible on an equal footing with Christians. Their own Bible says "Be ye not unequally yoked with unbelievers". It is a religion of exclusivity, separation and suspicion of others.
2007-07-20 08:13:45
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answered by Deirdre H 7
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I, for one, do worship the devil and am absolutely fine with Christians calling me a devil worshipper.
However, Christianity is that religion which has evolved from the time of Christ until this day and has built itself up on the canonized new testament. The religion can continue to evolve, where the population of Christians chooses to include new texts into its spiritual canon (the process by which the current canon really did evolve). It is fair, though, for those Christians that embrace the traditional understandings of the Godhead and the gospels to view those who deviate as being "other than" what they are. In fact, it's pretty normal. What it will take for that to change is for enough self-identifying Christians to alter what is normative. Some will cling to the old understandings, but if enough people choose to follow new understandings and bring in new texts, the traditionalists will be rendered irrelevant.
Fight the good fight,
Lazarus
2007-07-19 20:34:38
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answered by The Man Comes Around 5
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I find this very interesting, seems you have done a lot of studying. I like that, it shows the ability to seek understanding. When understanding and knowledge are combined you get wisdom. Don't let others influence you to do different. A christian once told me that his god created everything, and everything that exists was created by god. I told him then that god must have created his devil, and therefore it behooves me to believe that evil exists in his god. Well, we didn't talk anymore after that. Recognizing that I am a Heathen was the most liberating event in my life, the freedom is absolutely great. Why would anyone want to give up that ability to learn and use their intelligence. Keep up the good work.
2007-07-19 21:10:59
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answered by duaneb_59 5
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I would like to see which Scriptures say that the Holy Spirit is female! Every reference I see refers to all three parts of the Trinity as "He." (Not "it" or "she.")
The Gnostic gospels are not the true word of God. They have been tested and proven false, written out of context and do not agree with history and fact. Anything in there that does not agree with the rest of Scripture should be disregarded as false immediately. The Four Gospels, along with the rest of the Bible, have been proven true through history, science, archaeoligy, and geography. The Gnostic gospels have not been.
The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity, and He works even now in the hearts of all who believe, doing all that God desires Him to do.
2007-07-19 20:35:05
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answered by Rach 3
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Christianity has a long tradition of condeming anyone that does not accept Christianity as "The One True Religion". What do you think the real motivation was for starting the Crusades and The Spanish Inquisition?
2007-07-19 22:13:24
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answered by romer151 4
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It is incorrect to attribute a specific gender to God. God encompasses both genders, but He is not embodied by either. It is like calling a Painter a stroke of paint.
In reference to your actual question, there is a Devil, called Satan, or Baal, or the Enemy. He is known by many names. And there are also people, whether consciously or unconsciously, worship him. Some make it into a religion (Satanists), some do it and call it something else (Wiccans, pagans, Scientologists, etc), others are unaware (those who love money and power and oppress others for the sake of gaining it).
It's wrong for Christians to assign judgment in that way, I acknowledge. But that doesn't take away from the fact that people do indeed worship the devil, and they shouldn't. Better a stern rebuke which corrects us, than a flattering word that allows us to perish.
2007-07-19 20:28:36
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answered by Anonymous
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I am a Christian, but don't see all other religions as devil worshipers. I am open minded and understand that you have your own religion and I accept that. I respect you and don't judge you because of your religion.
Not all Christians are like what you make them out to be, some of us are different and understand and respect other religions as well.
2007-07-19 20:47:26
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answered by Cheeky 1
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The scriptures refer to the Holy Ghost as female? Pretty stupid statement. Give one reference. You can't now can you?
While the Holy Spirit is neither male nor female in His essence, He is properly referred to in the masculine by virtue of His relation to creation and biblical revelation. There is absolutely no biblical basis for viewing the Holy Spirit as the “female” member of the Trinity.
2007-07-19 20:27:54
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answered by Red neck 7
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