military question about enlisting.?

Question

i have a friend who is now 33, but when he was 16 was put in the hospital for a few day for mental issues he had with life.since then he has been in great mental health. he had tried to enlist in the national guard a few years back in the state he lives in (CT). the recruiter had told him because of this issues when he was a minor he is not able to enlist and it will be permintly attached to his social security number if he ever tries to enlist in other branches or in other states.he will be moving to Oklahoma in less then a week. i wanted to know how much of this is true. and in fact if it is true, is every state different. if you ask me its a load of crap when you have someone willing to give of themselves and be ready when called to service should our communities or our nation ever need him.i think if this happened when he was under the age of 17 it should be kept personal and no one but a family doctor should have access to (other then a judge). thanks for your help, E

Answer 1

Try again.

Answer 2

It probably is no longer true.

What is true is that when you try to enlist and are refused the record of that refusal can be accessed by any service recruiters.

You are right that incidents that happen when a person is a minor should remain confidential. The military is dropping its standards to accept more people so it can make its recruiting standards. The Army will even accept people who committed a minor felony. I assure you that if your friend tried to re-enlist he would be given due consideration. If the mental problems he had as a teenager are no longer influencing him then he should be qualified to enlist.

The stress of Basic Training will weed out any unstable people. A large part of Basic Training and any military training course is to see if you have the mind set to do the mission and if you have the will power to keep at it. If you can handle the physical part of training the intellectual part is pretty easy, the tough part then would be the mind games.

A Drill Sergeant’s job is to get those people who can't take the stress of combat to leave the service. Tell your friend that if the abuse gets too much and if he every wants to leave, thinking he can't handle it then all he has to do is to quit. That is true even in SEAL training and that is some of the toughest training on the planet. Once you quit the instructors will stop bothering you, they will make sure the other students don't see you any more and they will do their best to get you out of there as soon as possible. It isn't a disgrace to quit because you have reached your limits, the disgrace comes when you exceed those limits and fail while people are depending on you.

Answer 3

I don't know much about the military but I would hope that for your friends sake it is attached to his ss# and that he can't enlist. I think its great that he wants to, but if he has had mental issues in his past even as a child, to be put in the situation of war, and killing he could lose it endangering himself and others.
People go into the military without any mental issues from their past and can come out with mental issues from the things they see and have to do to survive.
Talk to some vets- see military action through their eyes and maybe you will be able to see that you should be thanking the military for protecting your friend.

Answer 4

It appears he has been entered on the "DNE" list. That stands for Do Not Enlist. As for his medical history prior to age 17, that is not a personal matter when it comes to enlistment or appointment. It is not his option to deny medical examiners access to his medical history. If he does carry out such an action and manages to enter the service, then he will be separated rather quickly once the facts surface or he exhibits symptoms of what troubled him in his youth.

Answer 5

well I am not sure of that answer but can tell you if they will let people in the Army who cant pass the asvab and who have Diabetes hmmm anything is possible! There was a female in AIT with me who was Biploar..

I have a name a number of a Oklahoma Guard Recruiter if you want it for your friend.

Answer 6

military requirements don't vary from state to state. barred in one state = barred in all. sorry.

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R.A.

Dude, are you completely clueless?

Individual services most certainly do have differing service requirements. The Navy & AF want smart people to work on their nuke programs. Meanwhile the primary mission of the Army & Marine Corps is ground pounding. Thus, all four services require different minimum ASVAB scores. Additionally, even within the AF you have seperate physical requirements. I have a desk job. I don't do physical labor. However, Joe Blow maintainer is lifting all the time. MEPS will test his strength before clearing him for the job. Me, nope, they just don't care.

Besides his isn't an intelligence or physical issue. He has a potential mental problem. This is the one area where I do believe the standards allign, & it is to bar him from service to ensure the safety of himself & his would be coworkers.

So, you are the weakest link. Good bye.

Answer 7

I had something similar happen to me. I enlisted in the air force 7 years ago (im out now and i will tell you why) when i enlisted i didn't tell my recruiter a bout a juvenile criminal record i had and of course when he did a background check he couldn't find anything because it was in my juvenile records. so i spent four years of my 6 year term in the air force and then they kicked me out. the reason they kicked me out was O.S.I - Office of Special Investigations(like a military FBI)they started doing random background checks on our base. My name popped up and O.S.I can get any records including juvie records. so in a nutshell yes the recruiter is partailly right. I would tell your friend to just be careful.

Answer 8

he needs a new recruiter and he can sign a waiver saying he hasn't had any problems since. Dr records will be checked in most states to see if it's true.

Answer 9

The military has every right to know if the person they are about to train and give a weapon to has mental issues.

That being said, only the recruiter/meps doctor can make the determination.
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Answer 10

Find another recruiter. If its something serious like he's bi-polar and needs meds then he cannot join. If he doesnt take any meds and he is fine than i dont see why he shouldnt be able to get a waiver.

Good luck

Answer 11

Every state has the same policies for enlisting in the military. If he can pass the physical exam at MEPS he can enlist in any brach.