What if Jesus ONLY forgave the Disciples, and died for the Sin of Judas, and those that had him Crucified?

Question

What if He only said..'I forgive you' to those that didn't support Him or failed to recognized Him when the Romans soldiers came, including or not Judas, and/not those that wanted Him crucified or crucified Him or mocked Him. What if afterwards, the Disciples were teaching the masses that Jesus forgave us and died for our sins, and the masses misinterpreted this, or the Disciples warped it to favor their own agenda/mission, or maybe the First Church warped it. I know..."what if" ...''what if''....but I do wonder about this, and I wonder what your thoughts are. What if all of those safety nets in "He did for our sins" .... are misinterpretations, or warped truths?
Just a Theist THINKing....what is your opinion?

But Jim-Bob...who wrote or spoke that God said that....The Disciples...or those that misunderstood what the Disciples spoke(intentionally or unintentionally)

Answer 1

A interesting point, then again, as you said, what if? What if he did really have a child with Mary Magellan, what if Da Vinci really was part of that secret society, what if, what if...still, it's always kind of fun to speculate about your religion now and then.

Well, let's say that this is true, then we might be in BIG trouble, lol. Still, I'm sure that he wouldn't hated us so much that he only saved 11 people (since Judas later hangs himself) when he died. Even then, let's say, he did. The disciples would still would have become holy, forgiving people for their sins, they would have followers, and the whole time line of Christianity would have stayed the same, give or take some events in between. Fun topic to think about. Thanks!

Answer 2

You need to always remember that Jesus was Jewish and trying to save Jews. The Gentiles were not a part of His mission.

Answer 3

that's something i totally never thought about before...maybe we're not all forgiven in advance. maybe we'll only find out either way when we die.
the only slight comfort is that surely a God who gave everyone the world would not condemn them in such a way before they even started?
nevertheless, good point, i'm going to need to have a think about that.

Answer 4

If what you say is true then you should just throw away the Bible because it is a lie. The Bible states plainly who Jesus Christ died for and he did write them all in a book before the world was even created, these are the people Jesus Christ died for and no others; Philippians 4:3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

This above is a complete list of where this book is spoken of.
but some other references are below;Genesis 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Exodus 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
Psalm 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.
Daniel 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Deuteronomy 9:14 Let me alone, that I may destroy them, and blot out their name from under heaven: and I will make of thee a nation mightier and greater than they.
Luke 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
Jesus Christ only came to save the elected people who's names are on the Lamb's book of life before the world was created.

Also Jesus Christ was not Jewish and neither are his children; Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Notice the words supposed?
1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Answer 5

Poor Yoda.
You are still not dealing with reality, and facts already established.