Athiests, guess who ran the Soviet Union into the ground?

Question

I guess I'm lucky to have grown up in a household of PhD's and to have obtained multiple degrees to see how stupid university professors are first hand.

These people are behind the anti-christianity movement because they want you to give them all the respect.

These same idiots were behind the centralized economies before the soviet union collapsed.

"Religeon is poison" - Chairman Mao

I take it as a compliment that the most common snipe is at my spelling error.

I'm enjoying the responses, keep going.

Here's a common one. Maybe you smart fellas can do some research and find out what Mao and the Soviet union had in common.

I'll give you a hint, read my question and first sentence.

Here's a bit of information for those who haven't quite cottoned on yet.

This is from the Soviet constitution.

"The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a socialist state of the whole people, expressing the will and interests of the workers, peasants, and intelligentsia, the working people of all the nations and nationalities of the country".

This is basically how 99% of academics would have the world. A nation of workers, peasents and "intelligensia". Guess who's gonna be runnin that little party. Guess who has contempt for anything people respect other than the "intelligensia".

At the end of the day its all pearls and swine. But I'm having fun.

Answer 1

You earned multiple degrees from someone you think is stupid?

It didn't occur to you to stop after the first one?

Nice going, kid.
--------------------------------------
I have four degrees (BA, MA, MS, Ph.D.). I had a wide variety of professors, probably more than 100 of them in all. I attended a university that has a reputation for being extremely liberal. Exactly two of my professors were Marxists. I don't know for sure, but I'll bet that roughly one-quarter to one-third were Christians.

I probably had about 10 professors who I thought weren't very bright, or who taught poorly. The vast majority of my professors were bright, hard-working people with interesting viewpoints who welcomed thoughtful criticism of those viewpoints.

You are clearly not capable of thoughtful criticism. Normal decent human beings respond negatively to thoughtless insults and false accusations. That response is what you're seeing and writing about here. If you'd behaved yourself properly in college and been smart enough to participate intelligently, you would have a very different view of university professors.
=====================
Your arrogant follow-up comments reinforce my diagnosis: you're not nearly as smart as you think you are, and you're not nearly bright enough to be embarrassed about your shortcomings. If this is how you acted in college, it's no wonder you didn't learn anything and you came away with a negative impression.

Answer 2

There was a time when my country (England) was ruled by kings and queens who were backed up (to lesser or greater degrees) by firstly the Church of Rome and then the Church of England. Some of these monarchs did a reasonable job - many didn't. With the power of God behind them, they left common people poor, sick and starving. And the god-fearing Victorians with their holier than thou attitude? Ask an Irish person about the kindly, God-empowered love of the English during the potato famine and he/she will rightfully spit in your face.

It doesn't matter one jot whether the bad ruler of a country is communist, fascist, Christian, Jewish or Muslim. If they are power hungry, cruel and greedy, the people suffer and the country suffers too. Were the people of Russia any better off under the Tsars? No. Were they any better off under the communists? Probably not until right before the fall of communism. Are they that much better off now? Possibly, but it's still a country where people are ruled by the corrupt and the greedy, although it's mostly on a local level now.

Communism was supposed to be about equality and it worked! Everyone was equally unhappy, poor and miserable apart from the privilliged few at the top. Oddly, there was a time in Britain, when under the fear of the church, just about all of the common people were pretty unhappy and anyone who spoke out of turn or criticised their leaders was branded a heretic and died a grisly death in the name of The Lord.

Bad politics - bad religion - same thing.

Oh and one last thing to remember ... The communists sent academics and professors to the stalags along with the religious leaders and those unfortunate enough to have been captured by the Germans during the war. They feared the learned as much as they feared the spirtitual leaders and they saw enemies everywhere.

Megalomaniacs, not athiests my friend.

We athiests do not want to see the destructon of society. We value it probably more than Christians do, because we don't believe that some supreme being is going to come and bail us out for all the problems we've caused in the world. We owe it to our children whom we love dearly and to our children's children to make the world a better, safer, fairer place.

Answer 3

Mother Russia had a problem,not with Atheists,but with mis management. There are so many outright lies and mis information coming from the media it is ridiculous. You cannot believe every thing you hear. Russia had and has quite a few enemies that wish to portray her as a country rife with problems. I can guarantee you that the USA has more problems than Russia has right now. Mother Russia is not stupid. The past years since the fall of communism have been a chess playing match. The mother land is not a weak has been country like your government would have you believe. There is a reason why they pulled out of the treaties that led to the fall of communism and it is not the reason that your media would have you believe. The Christian run USA government has and always will be rightfully scared and concerned with the Mother Bear. So stick that in your anti atheist pipe and smoke it.

Answer 4

First off don't quote someone and misspell religion. Are you saying that christians are better people because in this 1 instance they weren't at fault for wrong doings? Need i remind you of the christian crusades? Or the fact that 30% of the time christians post on this forum a good number of the posts after it are other christians appologizing for their stupid responses? Oh yeah, you also spelled atheist wrong too... just noticed. I guess your multiple degrees need not apply and your parents' PhD mentalities must have skipped a generation. And Mao was right, Religion is poison. More people have died in the name of god than for every other reason all piled into 1. By far. So you tell me, how is religion helping society??? ....thought so.

Answer 5

It is true that Communism is poor way to govern people. That has nothing to do with its atheism, though. The problem is that it is not economically feasible.
I'm surprised you call yourself Christian and then call your own parents stupid. I guess you took it literally when Jesus said to hate your family in Luke 14:25, and then ignored the fifth commandment to honor your father and mother. Anyway, just because you think your parents are stupid, does not mean all PhD's are also stupid. That is called stereotyping and generalizing.
You seem to think that because some Communists were atheists, that must mean all atheists are Communists. Your problem was an appeal to fear. You seem to be implying that any society with too many atheists will become a Communist country.
Please read the link I provided so you can see how to avoid logical fallacies while debating.

Answer 6

It's really sad how little some people make out of the opportunities they have been given for free. Maybe not having to fight for them makes them valueless? If you are older than 13, you have some catching up to do.

What does Mao have to to do with the Soviet Union? Mao got never along with any of the leaders of the Soviet Union.

The main problem with Marxist ideas is that Marx had no clue about human psychology and biology not that he discarded religion. Assuming that everybody is happy to contribute to the good of their community in preference to their own advantage was just naive. You sound like a good example.

Answer 7

So many people in the Soviet Union played chess, big deal. Why are you attacking chess? The fact many communists played chess has nothing to do with whether chess is a good game or not.

In a sense communism in the soviet union had all the characteristics of a religious belief. One was never supposed to question authority. For all practical purposes "Communism" was a god. True Atheism based on skepticism of everything is just the opposite.

Answer 8

Oh dear, oh dear. You talk about the Soviet Union and then quote a Chinaman, You are aware that Chairman Mao was Chinese aren't you?

There are plenty of religious University Professors, just because you don't know any doesn't mean they don't exist.

Answer 9

The Politburo. You know the fascists who decided to invade Afghanistan and outspend the richest nation in the world in the nuclear arms race. Mismanagement of their limited finances, not atheism brought down the USSR. Capitalism defeated socialism/ totalitarianism. It really had nothing to do with religion.

Answer 10

Athiests? Religeon? Wonder where you can buy those PhD's and degrees...
Religion did bad things in the past, non-religious people did also... religion might be a cover, but it's not always the cause.