Mormons, what if Joseph Smith doesn't let you in to 'the kingdom'. Can you appeal the decision with Jesus?

Question

It was taught by a Prophet of the Church, therefore it WAS in fact taught by the church.

Brigham Young, October 9, 1859
delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, October 9, 1859.
Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p.282-91

Joseph Smith holds the keys of this last dispensation, and is now engaged behind the vail in the great work of the last days. I can tell our beloved brother Christians who have slain the Prophets and butchered and otherwise caused the death of thousands of Latter-day Saints, the priests who have thanked God in their prayers and thanksgiving from the pulpit that we have been plundered, driven, and slain, and the deacons under the pulpit, and their brethren and sisters in their closets, who have thanked God, thinking that the Latter-day Saints were wasted away, something that no doubt will mortify them—something that, to say the least, is a matter of deep regret to them—namely, that no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith.

mormon4- I already said that.

Answer 1

Some have grumbled because I believe our God to be so near to us as Father Adam. There are many who know that doctrine to be true. Where was Michael in the creation of this earth? Did he have a mission to the earth? He did. Where was he? In the Grand Council, and performed the mission assigned him there. Now, if it should happen that we have to pay tribute to Father Adam, what a humiliating circumstance it would be! Just wait till you pass Joseph Smith; and after Joseph lets you pass him, you will find Peter; and after you pass the Apostles and many of the Prophets, you will find Abraham, and he will say, "I have the keys, and except you do thus and so, you cannot pass;" and after a while you come to Jesus; and when you at length meet Father Adam, how strange it will appear to your present notions. If we can pass Joseph and have him say, "Here; you have been faithful, good boys; I hold the keys of this dispensation; I will let you pass;" then we shall be very glad to see the white locks of Father Adam.
-Brigham Young, Journal Of Discourses 5: 332


One thing that has always intrigued me about Mormonism is the number of people that will supposedly judge us. Here are a few:

1. Father, Son, and Holy Ghost (each described as a separate judge, and then together, as in "the judgment bar of the F,S, and HG", in BoM)

2. Peter (in Matthew)

3. Christ's original Twelve (also in Matthew, and in John)

4. Joseph Smith (in Brigham Young's and other prophet's talks)

5. The prophet and apostles "of our time," meaning Hinckley for those living now (Gospel Doctrine manual)

6. For brethren, each person in the succession of keys, all the way back up to Jesus Christ, to be effectuated at Adam Ondi-Ahman (in the D&C, Gospel Doctrine Manual, and an "unpublished revelation" to Joseph Smith)

7. The missionaries (if any) that converted you (Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff all cited this)

8. A person's lineage chain all the way back to Adam (Temple Endowment, D&C, conference talks)

9. The angels who stand as sentinels (Temple Endowment, Brigham Young, Joseph Smith, conference talks)

10. Ourselves, like an "automatic judgment," since a Telestial person could never feel comfortable amongst Celestial people, and vice versa (mostly conference talks and urban legends, but this seems to be a popular view amongst latter-day saints).

11. The Dispensation Head prophet and his apostles: JS for us, Moses for the Jews, Adam for his posterity through Enoch, etc. (Gospel Doctrine manual, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young)

12. All of the prophets and apostles from each dispensation (see quote above, also History of the Church, seminary/institure manuals)

I can't remember if there are more, but that's still a hefty list.

I just hope that they're all in a pretty chill mood when I pass through!

Answer 2

Jesus is the final judge.

Here is more of what Brigham Young said.

"Joseph Smith holds the keys of this last dispensation, and is now engaged behind the vail in the great work of the last days. I can tell our beloved brother Christians who have slain the Prophets and butchered and otherwise caused the death of thousands of Latter-day Saints, the priests who have thanked God in their prayers and thanksgiving from the pulpit that we have been plundered, driven, and slain, and the deacons under the pulpit, and their brethren and sisters in their closets, who have thanked God, thinking that the Latter-day Saints were wasted away, something that no doubt will mortify them—something that, to say the least, is a matter of deep regret to them—namely, that no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith..."

does it make more sense now?

Answer 3

Joseph Smith was a man and needed Jesus for salvation and to enter heaven.

Acts 4:
12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Jesus will Judge all men righteously and won't ask Joseph Smith or any other man to help or decide for Him.

Jesus won't have an appeals process since He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords and He is given the power to Judge all men.
Rev 18-22
Matt 24-25
Malachi 3-4
Job 19

Answer 4

The LDS ideals at the instant are not Biblically based. in spite of the incontrovertible fact that i will teach this via quoting Pauline Scripture, i do no longer desire you to tension this would, some day, be "shot!" Jesus instructed us returned and returned interior the Gospels that fake instructors and fake prophets would come. evaluate LDS ideals with what you realize Jesus spoke or maybe the previous testomony; you will discover many obvious contradictions. as an occasion, Mormons have faith Jesus and devil are brothers, scuffling with over whose plan of salvation became into best. Jesus' became into chosen, which ticked off devil. The OT tells us returned and returned that the Messiah became into component to a triune God (as an occasion, see Psalm 40 5:7 and Isaiah fifty 3); on the grounds that devil became right into a cherub (Eze. 28:sixteen), this on my own makes all different LDS claims questionable. And enable's no longer ignore their greatest blunders: that God became into as quickly as a guy (Adam), who's now glorified. it is absolute blasphemy. I firmly have faith the "gospel" given to Joseph Smith via an "angel" contradicts Paul's God-stimulated warning at Galatians a million: "8 yet despite if we, or an angel from heaven, carry forth the different gospel to you than what we've preached to you, enable him be accursed. 9 As we've pronounced till now, so now I say returned, if everyone preaches the different gospel to you than what you have gained, enable him be accursed." via those standards, we are able to be very particular that Joseph Smith became right into a pretend prophet and instructor. Peace.

Answer 5

I think there will be many "helper" judges, but of course Christ and our Heavenly Father will have the final say. I kind of also think that we will in a way judge ourselves...we will know if we are going to be accepting into the Celestial Kingdom...that's just my own theory.
I just try to do my best, that's all I can do and all I am expected to do, my personal best. I hope and pray that I may live worthily to receive the blessings promised me and my family.

Answer 6

That bit about Joseph Smith deciding whether or not we get into heaven was something that Brigham Young pulled out of his *ss during a church conference (he did that a lot, must of been drunk a lot of the time). It's not something that was ever taught by the church.

Answer 7

I think if Jesus says a person is good to go, that Joseph will agree. And so will Moroni, Jacob, and any others that are there.

Answer 8

Joseph doesn't have a say in it. Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ will be our judges.

Answer 9

i am not . mormon . but isnt in lds teacking . adam . in lds teaching god to you and dont you in , lds teaching belive in a different christ . in your own bible from the lds church . yes . based on fact my cousin . is . lds ?