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Prods seem to be the worst offenders. They point the finger of scorn but their own "church" is simply a dead branch of a dead tree. They are a break off from the Catholic Church and they still share many of the pagan beliefs such as the trinity. Maybe they should just shut up and leave us alone!

2007-07-18 17:57:06 · 31 answers · asked by Ethan M 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

A rant? Well maybe a little but What I am talking about is how people treat me differently once they find out that I am a Mormon. I had a boss that would sit there at break and try (no he never could back anything up) to tear down my church. That never happens to Baptists or other Prods.

2007-07-18 18:02:26 · update #1

BLM save your pity. You are very condescending and arrogant not to mention ignorant. The church didn't start with a Man as did your pathetic prod churches. It started when God (Yes that would be the Father who is a separate personage from the Son and Holy Spirit) The Prod "doctrine" was started when men decided that they didn't like the catholic church. You need to study and stop listening to satanic "preachers" who have only their own gain in mind.

2007-07-18 18:10:41 · update #2

THROUGH A CUTTING AND PASTING ERROR MY FIRST STATEMENT IS INCOMPLETE PLEASE REFER BELOW.

BLM save your pity. You are very condescending and arrogant not to mention ignorant. The church didn't start with a Man as did your pathetic prod churches. It started when God (Yes that would be the Father who is a separate personage from the Son and Holy Spirit) called Joseph Smith to be a Prophet. Much like the Savior called the Apostles. The Prod "doctrine" was started when men decided that they didn't like the Catholic Church. You need to study and stop listening to satanic "preachers" who have only their own gain in mind.

2007-07-18 18:12:58 · update #3

31 answers

Our standards are different because your religionisn't a religion! it is a lifestyle! We choose to be modest and not use bad words! While other religions think differently! our religion chooses not to have anyhting addictive while other religions might think differently! We have standards that show we are good people and our standards tell us what is good and bad!

2007-07-19 05:43:59 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Ok, let me illustrate the enigma in terms you can understand:

"You're the worst offenders. You're a dead branch on a dead tree. Your pastors and preachers are satanic. You're no better than Catholics. You're pagan. You guys all need to shut up. Save your pity. You are condescending, arrogant, and ignorant. MY Church (not yours) started when God (Yes MY definition of God, not yours) called a Prophet. Your doctrine was started just to spite the Catholic Church. You need to study and stop listening to your greedy, gain-seeking, satanic preachers. MY church teaches ALL the truth. YOURS only teach PART of the truth... when they're not being SATANIC, that is."

"Oh, and by the way, don't you DARE hold me to a higher standard. That wouldn't be FAIR."

Does that about sum it up?

2007-07-19 06:25:18 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Because it's true. People who proclaim a faith but dont live up to it see mormons actually trying and feel bad that they dont do anything more than talk the talk. So they try to make the mormons the bad guys so they feel good about themselves.

They don't have any legitimate criticisms against mormons. heck most have no clue what mormons believe. they just proclaim it false out of complete ignorance. Because when people read the Book of Mormon they realize that it's teaching the same doctrine as the Bible. They realize its a testimony of Christ and that its physical evidence that God works in the world today as He has in the past.

Which is why they will not read. they will not pray. they dont want to know. they want to believe their own doctrines and thus anything else must be held to an impossible standard.

2007-07-19 05:44:10 · answer #3 · answered by Avatar_defender_of_the_light 6 · 2 0

I think there's a couple reasons...

1) We hold ourselves to a higher standard...

2) We don't fit many peoples' description of "Christian"... They choose to narrow it down so far as to only include themselves... It's like saying all humans are women... which clearly excludes the males of the species. If one must be Trinitarian to classify as "Christian", then there's a lot of people out there that believe in Jesus' saving sacrifice that don't qualify.

Regarding others bashing us... *shrug* I figure that it will all come out in the wash. Father will sort it all out at the Final Judgement. I'll continue in what I feel is right and true, and I'll try to be nice to people who are jerks to me about my faith.


I heard about a man who did some research and realized that the Protestants don't really have a leg to stand on.... Either the "truth" has been here all along and Catholicism is right... and they broke away from that truth, so they can't be the "truth"....
Or the "truth" was lost somewhere along the way, and Mormonism is right. In which case, the Protestant religions are as you called them, "a dead branch of a dead tree."

2007-07-19 17:39:11 · answer #4 · answered by Yoda's Duck 6 · 2 0

The first time I read this question, I got the impression that it was a rant. I've read it through several more times, and I still have the same thought. Please forgive me if I'm wrong. Whatever you are trying to accomplish, I don't think this is the way to do it. Just as we get defensive when they call our church a cult, they will get defensive if you call their beliefs pagan. As members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, we need to have thick skin and not be easily offended (especially here on Y/A!) Remember this is a gospel of peace and love.

To answer your question, we hold ourselves to higher standards. There is nothing wrong with others doing so as well.

2007-07-19 07:50:33 · answer #5 · answered by Senator John McClain 6 · 1 0

"They are a break off from the Catholic Church and they still share many of the pagan beliefs such as the trinity." It's snobbery like that that gets you "held to a standard that is different than the rest of the Christian world."

2007-07-19 17:02:17 · answer #6 · answered by Liesel 5 · 0 0

The trinity is not a pagan belief. It is a Catholic belief that there is One God in three persons, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

I believe Mormon's have a bad reputation from the olden days of Polygamy.

2007-07-18 18:01:34 · answer #7 · answered by dante 3 · 0 1

silverfox: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints officially put an end to polygamy in 1890. There are a dozen or so "fundamental" Mormon groups which still practice polygamy - the FLDS being the largest.

I think Mormons are held to a higher standard because we do it to ourselves. The general population knows the basics of the Word of Wisdom, Law of Chastity, etc. We are known to mostly live up to these standards, so when a Mormon falls it is news-worthy.

2007-07-19 17:18:56 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

All right, I'll answer this the best that I can. Let me begin by saying as a Catholic raised in Salt Lake that we're not a dead tree. Jesus promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church (Mt. 16:18), and he later built the Church and gave the keys to Peter (Jn. 21:15-19). With so much as the promise, the Great/Total Apostasy is impossible. I've checked the Biblical references which supposedly point to the Total Apostasy, however, in all of the references, it never says "all." It says "many" and so forth, however, many is not all. Simply coming from a historical perspective, history only, there was never a time in history where every last person abandoned the faith. It would have been recorded in some form or fashion if it had happened, however I have yet to see any such evidence that it did occur. In short, Jesus started the Catholic Church. Yes, it was Him, the Savior. If he did indeed start the Church as the Bible says (again Jn. 21:15-19), then the restoration was not necessary. Thomas F. Smith, an LDS convert to Catholicism, noted many things about both Churches and the Protestant Church, and after much prayer and contemplation, he left the LDS Church, became a Protestant for a little while, then entered into full Communion with the Catholic Church. Last I knew, he was in seminary to become a priest. As for the Trinity, every last LDS person I've met has misunderstood it. They confuse Trinitarianism with Modalism. Trinitarianism is that God is three distinct personages; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. God is each of these persons at once, again in three personages, and that they are all coequal, coeternal, and cosubstantial. In Modalism (which is something else entirely from Trinitarianism), God switches back and forth between persons. That is not what the Trinity is; it is that God is all three Persons, all at once, distinct, however not separate as they are all the same God.
Here's a quasi-visual to help people understand better:
God=the Father
God=Jesus, the Son
God=the Holy Spirit
three distinct persons from eachother, also;
the Father is not the Son,
the Son is not the Spirit,
the Spirit is not the Father,
the Father is not the Spirit,
the Son is not the Father
the Spirit is not the Son, etc., you get the picture. The Trinity is a mystery as is God Himself. To further emphasize the Trinity and that it is indeed three distinct persons Jesus gave us the Trinitarian Formula; both for baptism, and the Sign of the Cross: In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. In other words; In God who is the Father, the first Person of the Trinity, and of the Son Who is distinct from the Father and is the second Person of the Trinity, and of the Holy Spirit, Who is the Third Person of the Trinity, and is also distinct from the Father and the Son. There that is in a nutshell. I don't mean to ramble on so much, I just use detail when explaining something like this. Also take a look at the Apostle's Creed:

"I belive in God, the Father All Mighty, and in His only Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, Who was born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended to the dead, ascended into Heaven, and is seated at the Right Hand of the Father. He will come again, and His Kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of Saints the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the dead, and life everlasting. Amen." All who profess this implore that God is all three persons, and all at once. That's what the Trinity is about. The Nicene Creed further emphasizes and reinforces what we believe:

"We believe in one God, the Father All Mighty. Creater of Heaven and Earth, of all that is seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ. The only Son of God. Eternally begotten from the Father. God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God. Begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him, all things were made. For us men and for our salvation He came down from Heaven.

By the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again, in fulfillment of the Scriptures, He ascended into Heaven, and is seated at the Right Hand of the Father. He will come again in Glory to judge the living and the dead, and his Kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life. Who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshipped, and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets.

We believe in One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. We acknowledge One Baptism for the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the dead, and life everlasting. Amen."

Again, it further emphasizes that the three persons of the Trinity are distinct from Eachother, however, are still the same God All Mighty, not three persons who are three gods. That's it for now.

In Nomine Domini, Pater omnipotens. Pax in Iesum Christum. Nunc et Semper.

2007-07-18 18:52:23 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

The true answer to your question is that Satan puts forth his greatest efforts against the greatest truths. Anybody who desires to join the LDS will face opposition. That is guaranteed because Satan does not want anybody to join the true Church of Christ. Likewise, anytime we plan to do something special, like go to the temple, get married in the temple, have a priesthood advancement, go on a mission for the Church or receive a new calling in the Church, we can expect opposition. We grow spiritually by facing and overcoming the challenges and the opposition. If we were false, a church of men, then Satan would leave us alone, being no threat to him. Jesus said it best when He told His apostles that the world hates them because they are not of the world. If ye were of the world, the world would love you but because I have called you out of the world, the world hates you as it has hated me. Apply that to the here and now and you get the same result. Because we are not like everybody else, and are closer to Christ than anybody else, then the world resents and even hates us. If we were like everybody else, the world would leave us alone but because we are not like the world, the world, prompted by their leader, Lucifer, point us out for ridicule and scorn.
When I was on my mission in Brazil, a woman, who identified herself as Satan, told the missionaries that the reason we were not doing so well was because Satan was throwing everything he had at us to stop our work or slow us down. The mission president told us to rejoice because the opposition was afraid of our progress. I expect that same feeling to continue as long as the world endures until Christ returns to set things straight.

2007-07-19 07:09:41 · answer #10 · answered by rac 7 · 2 0

Mormons follow the trachings of the church of later-day saints, which considered Joseph Smith as a saint in the 18th century that came to US to bring new faith to Americans. Christians do not accept that, so they are not sconsidered the same Chrsitians as Catholics or Baptists or other Protestants, who believed in Christ, not Joseph smith nor Brigham Young!

2007-07-18 18:03:57 · answer #11 · answered by vlee1225 6 · 3 0

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