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Does it make sense having the same punishment (Hell) regardless of the crime? Isn't that sort of like going to court and the judge sentences everybody to life in prison whether they're there for jaywalking or triple murder? Shouldn't the punishment fit the crime, or is applying logic to religion a mistake?

2007-07-18 07:27:25 · 23 answers · asked by HawaiianBrian 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Reportbot: I agree with your statement, all except the part about reporting me which I assume was facetious, even though someone had this identical question deleted when I first asked it yesterday. Would that have been you?

2007-07-18 07:38:02 · update #1

Gary John: Huh? I'm stupid, please explain in English

2007-07-18 07:40:08 · update #2

Well Reportbot was right, the believers are bringing up the old lie that Hitler wasn't a Christian - as if that makes the entire analogy false!

Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle against the world enemy, the Jews... The work that Christ started but could not finish, I will conclude.
— Adolf Hitler

I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so
— Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
— Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp. 46

2007-07-18 07:42:14 · update #3

Hogie: reread your bible. That's exactly what he said

2007-07-18 07:43:46 · update #4

Gman: You said one has to be Christian to be guilty of blasphemy. That's a new one! What makes you believe that? To a believer, a crime is a crime, regardless of who did it. The state of MA still has blashphemy laws on the books. Do you think they CARE if someone is Christian or not?

2007-07-18 07:50:24 · update #5

For those who claim their bibles never said blasphemy is an unforgivable sin....

Matthew 12:31
"And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."

2007-07-18 10:27:14 · update #6

TK421:
"If God created flawed beings, how then can He go on to blame them for their flaws?"
— James Halloran

"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."
— Gene Roddenberry, (1921-1991)

"Strange...a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied seventy times seven and invented Hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!"
— Mark Twain

2007-07-18 10:44:06 · update #7

23 answers

Love the quotes, and don't worry if you go to hell you'll be in good company. that's where all the fun people go to. heaven's too boring for intellectuals. to qoute billy joel : " i'd rather laugh w/ the sinners than cry w/ the saints, the sinners are much more fun."

2007-07-19 10:53:50 · answer #1 · answered by Sandy B 2 · 0 0

How do you know you are not forgiveable? How exactly have you grieved the Holy Spirit? I would let God be the judge of what you've done. You could, right now, ask Him to change your heart and forgive you. Are you proud to be "unforgiveable" or you are desiring something else for your life?

There are a lot of questions here, but they all have the same basic answer: The punishment does fit the crime--sin (one or many; any kind) separates us from God, and forgiveness through the blood of Christ brings us back into fellowship with Him in this life and the next.

Yes, even Hitler could have been forgiven before he died, but I don't think anyone knows if that is the case. His quotes just show how evil and twisted he was, justifying his sin by saying that it was God's will. There was a time when I would have applauded the idea of Hilter rotting in Hell. Then I took a closer look at myself and saw that I deserved the same.

I hope that before your life is over, you experience God's forgiveness.

2007-07-18 08:22:50 · answer #2 · answered by Connie 2 · 0 2

I was raised Catholic, going to confession every Friday before Mass on Sunday and NOWHERE did it say, or did anyone ever tell me that blasphemy was "unforgivable". Perhaps the answerer who said that "the blasphemer can be forgiven, but just refuses forgiveness"...gave the only explanation I can make sense of. If this WERE true, yes it would be incredibly unfair...but most of Christianity is not about "fairness" nor about "Making sense"!

2007-07-18 07:36:00 · answer #3 · answered by Gwynneth Of Olwen 6 · 3 0

Well, cut Jesus a small break. It's hard for fictional non-existent characters to anticipate anything beyond the year 2000 B.C, lol. Or to make moral or consistent rules without understanding today's culture:

The bible's lack of understanding extends to anything on science, medicine, democracy, secularism, engineering, global cultures, technology, atomic weaponry, or mass murder.

So yeah, according to the Bible you burn for saying one sentence (I deny the holy spirit) while mass murderers could technically pray and get off easy. Religion stinks, doesn't it? Good thing it's not even real.

2007-07-18 17:11:19 · answer #4 · answered by Dalarus 7 · 2 0

Since I have never heard of a ¨lesser death¨ and the wages of sin is death, so even if Murder was seen as worst than telling a lie, 3 death sentence would not make a differences, now would it?

By the way blasphemy is something only a christain can do ( since you have to belive in the God to tell a lie on him), soo you can still find repentance.

2007-07-18 07:38:03 · answer #5 · answered by Gman 1 · 0 2

Well applying THAT logic is a mistake...

Let's say that you saved and saved your money and went out a bought a new car... Driving the new car home, the steering wheel fell off, the car smelled musty and you saw that it had 100,000 miles on it and several other problems occured. Now, for your money you wanted a new car a perfectly new car. You should get one and I doubt that you would accept the used POS...

God asked us to be perfect. We were not. Now he will give us what we justly deserve for failing to be perfect. You can agree that you are not perfect, but despite how you feel, YOU KNOW you are not perfect and God asked you to be and being the creator he had a right to put an obligation on you. So God has thought about it and is willing to give us mercy IF WE BELIEVE IN CHRIST and IF WE DON'T THEN WE GET JUSTICE....

What is wrong with that? Logically? nothing... I might not like it and you might not like it, but the above construct is logical.

2007-07-18 07:40:38 · answer #6 · answered by TK421 5 · 0 3

Hi Brian,

No. You've been misinformed. Blasphemy in general is forgiveable. Blasphemy against God - that is the Holy Spirit - is not.

No one ever said or would dare suggest that what Hitler did was forgiveable. Thou Shalt NOT kill is of the utmost importance.

2007-07-18 07:38:35 · answer #7 · answered by Max Marie, OFS 7 · 1 1

I think hell was a man made up invention... not a God one. Hell was ment to control people "made up BY man". I belive in God i don't belive every word of the bible. A all knowing all loving God would not make a Hell seems like a human man made thing to me. Lets not forget man wrote the bible.

2007-07-18 07:32:15 · answer #8 · answered by golly geesh 3 · 3 1

Who knows how the people going to Hell are going to be judged, but I think that it will be based more on who repents and accepts God than who has sinned the most.

That does seem unfair on an earthly scale, but the logic comes not in individual "crimes and punishments". Hell may not be a fiery furnace, but it's almost certainly separation from God. If you kill 1000000s, or don't believe in God, then would it make that much difference if all it is is separation from God?

2007-07-18 07:31:59 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Hitler claimed to be a Christian, and I like to think, just after he poisoned his girlfriend, and just before he pulled the trigger, he asked God for forgiveness, seems like a plausible act considering he was about to die and there are no Atheists in foxholes.

What will Christians say if Hitler is kicking it with st Peter when they arrive to paradise, but their children or parents are rolling in torture in hell, because they thought that the Muslims had it right?

2007-07-18 07:31:56 · answer #10 · answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7 · 1 3

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