Who had a miraculous birth, was a virgin, sinless, is our redeemer, and ascended into Heaven?

Question

Well... the Catholics will say Mary, but these are all attributes of Jesus given in the Bible (and none of these are given to Mary).

Kind of scary, this goddess worship of theirs.

newcatholic, you lie again! Mary is your co-redmtrix.

Lies, lies, lies... I have not lied once and yet you accuse me of what you are doing.

Answer 1

REally against the CAtholics lately! lol

Answer 2

Do they apply to Mary?

Miraculous birth? - No.
Virgin? Yes
Sinless? Yes, but only because she was preserved from sin by the grace of God
Redeemer? No. "Co-redeemer" means she brings others to Jesus, our redeemer. This is something everyone is called to do.
Ascended into Heaven? No, she was assumed into Heaven.

The only person that ALL of these characteristics apply to is Jesus Christ.

Hmmmmm....a Catholic just told you that the answer is Jesus. I guess that makes you pretty ignorant of the Catholic faith and Catholics.

Here is a suggestion, though it is obvious it has not entered your mind - ask a Catholic what the Catholic Church teaches or what Catholics believe.

Then, LISTEN.

Answer 3

Actually, picking on the Catholics this way is a little hypocritical, seeing as to how these same attributes are found in several Pagan and Egyptian deities and god-men. Kind of like how christians say Jesus was THE Messiah and he fullfilled so many 'prophecies', but none of the important ones that would have made him recognized as THE Messiah, like peace on earth, rebuilding the third temple, ending all religions, etc.

Answer 4

Why would the Catholics say Mary? She is not our redeemer!

Why do you think Mary and Jesus would be in competition? What Mother would want to take the attention from her own son. Especially, this Mother? What Son would not want his mother to be honored?

Jesus loves his mother, he honored her. We imitate him in that we love her and honor her. Jesus kept the 10 commandments. The 5th commandment is to honor your father and your mother. Jesus certainly would have done this.

In scripture she says "all nations will call me blessed" and this is what we should do. Follow the Bible and honor the mother of Christ.

Mary being the co-redemptrix is to understand that her coopoeraton was part of salvation. Her "yes" to God gave flesh to Christ. This flesh was necessary for his death and for our salvation through him. She aided salvation...she gave him herself and thereby brought the Savior into this world.

Why would God use a woman? Have you ever asked yourself? He could have sent Jesus without having him be born of a woman. Jesus could have just appeared at about 30 years old and started his mission. No...he came into this world as we all have. It was important that he be born in flesh. Whose flesh did he receive? Mary's. She gave God her body, her will, her soul. This complete sacrifice on her part is an important piece of salvation. She is the new Eve and Christ is the new Adam.
http://www.catholicsource.net/articles/coredemptrix.html

It is important to note that the prefix "co" in the title Coredemptrix does not mean "equal to" but rather "with", coming from the Latin word "pronounced come" (but spelled cee you emm, Yahoo places stars in this word because of it's other meaning.) The Marian title Coredemptrix never places Mary on a level of equality with her Divine Son, Jesus Christ. Rather it refers to Mary's unique human participation which is completely secondary and subordinate to the redeeming role of Jesus, who alone is true God and true Man.

Your misunderstanding is glaring and your anger based on your erroneous beliefs about the Catholic faith insight true Catholics and lead others astray. You should leave teaching the Catholic faith to those who understand it.

Answer 5

Mithra!

1. Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds.
2. He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
3. He had 12 companions or disciples.
4. Mithra's followers were promised immortality.
5. He performed miracles.
6. As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
7. He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again.
8. His resurrection was celebrated every year.
9. He was called "the Good Shepherd" and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
10. He was considered the "Way, the Truth and the Light," and the "Logos," "Redeemer," "Savior" and "Messiah."
11. His sacred day was Sunday, the "Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
12. Mithra had his principal festival of what was later to become Easter.
13. His religion had a eucharist or "Lord's Supper," at which Mithra said, "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."
14. "His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement or pledge of moral and physical regeneration."
15. Shmuel Golding is quoted as saying that 1 Cor. 10:4 is "identical words to those found in the Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ."
16. The Catholic Encyclopedia is quoted as saying that Mithraic services were conduced by "fathers" and that the "chief of the fathers, a sort of pope, who always lived at Rome, was called 'Pater Patratus.'"

Answer 6

Catholics worship no-one but the founder of our Church - GOD, in the Person of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Idolatry in every form is absolutely condemned by the Catholic Church, as you could have discovered yourself by taking a peek into the Catechism of the Catholic Church before parading your ignorance. But the last thing a bigot wants to run into is facts.

Mary was conceived and born in the usual human way. God did save her at the moment of her conception, but if you consider that "miraculous" then the salvation of each of us is likewise "miraculous". Only the timing was different.

Yes, Mary was a virgin. The Bible makes this very clear.

We have no Redeemer except Jesus Christ, who is God. Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ, and therefore the mother of God.

Mary did not "ascend" into heaven. Jesus alone did this by His own power. Mary was "assumed" into heaven, not by her own power but by the power of God.

All of this is verified beyond doubt by the words of Christ to the leaders of His Church, "whatsoever you bind upon earth is bound in heaven", and "the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth". But I realize these passages are two of the many passages Protestants must ignore in order to cling to their manmade traditions. Sad.

Answer 7

Catholicism is a cult & is leading millions of people straight to hell. How much more obvious can it be that to bow to a statue of Mary OR the Saints is IDOL WORSHIP? The Bible tells us not to bow to graven images. It's a regular part of their rituals. Also, many of them pray to Mary when the Bible is very clear that Jesus Christ is our intercessor & He is the way, the truth, & the life & NO ONE comes to the Father BUT BY HIM. The Virgin Mary was simply a willing vessel used by God to bring His Son into the world. The "Saints" were noble & holy people, but they were PEOPLE. Anytime we glorify, bow down to or worship ANYTHING OR ANYONE ELSE other than God almighty we are sinning.

Answer 8

You are the one who is spreading false lies not NewCatholic please study the Catholic faith before make anymore false accusations

Are you a Christian because you are not acting like one!

Answer 9

It just does not seem to bother you to keep bearing false witness against us, we are your neighbor.

Mary is NOT our redeemer, we have told you that numerous times today, why to you insist on violating the 10 commandments?

Peace be with you!

P.S. and Scary is people who are intolerant and will not listen to reason.

Answer 10

If you believe what people say, Mohammed, Ptolemy, Mithras, Dionysis, Osiris, Ghengis Khan, Alexander, Pythagorgus, and an Indian mystic currently alive called Sathya Sai Babba.