How do you know the bible is biblical.?

Question

No I suppose this is just a debate topic as I think it is.

However how do you know that the bible is the final authority. Catholics can succesfully argue that nowhere does the current bible say that it is the final authority.

They believe that it needs to be examined in light of church history and the writings of the founding fathers of the church.

So what happens if a individual person tries to interpret the bible in light of itself. The answer is that many people can come to very different conclusions.

One will say it means this and another that it means that and both will think they are absolutly true.

Does anyone have any idea around this.

The Bible makes no such claim—in fact, it denies it (1 Cor. 11:2, 2 Thess. 2:15, 2 Tim. 2:2, 2 Pet. 1:20, 3:15-16

People cant answer this as the bible itself says that it isint the final authority so are all bible based churches false.

TO TG

You say that the bible is "profitable" thats all.

You also say that peter said scripture was not for private interpretation (isint that what has created 35,000 denominations)

Lastly, you say not one word should be taken from this book (from revelation) well revelation was written long before the rest of the new testament.

It was a seperate book, I think you need to go back to school young man!!!!

Answer 1

The idea that all revealed truth is to be found in "66 books" is not only not in Scripture, it is contradicted by Scripture (1 Corinthians 11:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15, 2 Thessalonians 3:6, 1 Timothy 3:15, 2 Peter 1:20-21, 2 Peter 3:16). It is a concept unheard of in the Old Testament, where the authority of those who sat on the Chair of Moses (Matthew 23:2-3) existed. In addition to this, for 400 years, there was no defined canon of "Sacred Scripture" aside from the Old Testament; there was no "New Testament"; there was only Tradition and non-canonical books and letters.




Protestants claim the Bible is the only rule of faith, meaning that it contains all of the material one needs for theology and that this material is sufficiently clear that one does not need apostolic tradition or the Church’s magisterium (teaching authority) to help one understand it. In the Protestant view, the whole of Christian truth is found within the Bible’s pages. Anything extraneous to the Bible is simply non-authoritative, unnecessary, or wrong—and may well hinder one in coming to God.

Catholics, on the other hand, recognize that the Bible does not endorse this view and that, in fact, it is repudiated in Scripture. The true "rule of faith"—as expressed in the Bible itself—is Scripture plus apostolic tradition, as manifested in the living teaching authority of the Catholic Church, to which were entrusted the oral teachings of Jesus and the apostles, along with the authority to interpret Scripture correctly.

Answer 2

The scriptures tell us that the proof is in the writing itself and is inherent if you understand that Prophecy is possible for God alone. An Omnipresent God in space would have to be omnipresent in time as well.
It is He alone that knows the future, and He has occasionally let slip with a tid-bit or two of what is to come!
Ex: Everyone reads the 23 Psalm. Try the 22nd!!!! You will get a graphic description of the Crucifixion from the writing of David some 7 or 8 centuries BEFORE Crucifixion was invented by the Romans!
Do you know things like that? Even one day before they happen. Ask the people of Thailand the day after their big Tsunami!
The proof is there if you only take the time to look for it.

Answer 3

The Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church were one Church before the Schism of 1054. Now these churches still trace their origin all the way back to the first disciples of Jesus Christ. I can only speak for the Eastern Orthodox one where I belong. By tracing back I mean that there are official records of who layed hands on who(ordained clergy) from the days of the Apostles until today. So these Churches have apostolic succession.

Now these disciples and their followers, left us the New Testament. But, nowhere in these texts it is written that only this scripture is valid. So the afore mentioned Churches, acknowledge as well Holy Tradition (Grk: Iera Paradosis -from paradido=hand down to) as a valid Christian source- The Holy Tradition contains writings and the word of other Fathers of Church-successors of the Apostles.

In the first centuries that followed the establishment of the Church (33AD, the Pentecost), there were individuals who, although professed their faith in Jesus Christ and claim to serve true God, came up with theories about our Lord´s nature (See Arian, Eutych,Nestorius etc). To protect the integrity of the Church - the unique, true Church - of false teachings and weak human interpretations that basically form heresy because they lack the Truth of the Holy Spirit, the Church fathers, successors of the Apostles formed Councils known as Ecumenic (Greek for Universal). In these Councils, these Fathers (that in those times only represented geographically defined chuches), unanimously defined the principles of our faith, the Creed (in brief),based on this Tradition-which the New Testament is part of. This way, they also defined what is heresy.

The Ecumenical Councils were seven. They were not based on opinions of human individuals like Calvin, Lutheran, and others, but on the teachings and life of Jesus Christ and the Grace of the Holy Spirit who came to the Apostles when he went up to the Father, and was transferred to their successors. The feedback of these Councils, define our beliefs and we refer to them.

So if an individual attempts to interpret the Bible in light of itself and not within the context of the true Church, how can this person be sure of his conclusions?

Answer 4

The bible is noted for making contradictory claims and I know that if I look I can find where it says it is the truth, the word of God and that it is not to be added or subtracted from.

Whatever, It is a bunch of ancient scribbles collected over ages.The poorly edited writings of old peoples.
The history it relates does not relate to the history on the ground. Fantasy and fiction mix freely with true statements.
What a mess.

Answer 5

Since I don't want to start another war of words here by expressing my views on Catholicism (I USED to be Catholic), let me just say that the Bible speaks to my heart. Just as God does. I have read the Bible from cover to cover three times, and am on my fourth reading. Each time I read it, new revelation comes to me. Something that meant very little at an earlier reading will jump out at me and I know in my heart it is the Lord communicating to me. If you're a true Christian, you have felt the physical, intellectual and emotional changes that overcame you when you gave your life to Jesus. You know the difference between what someone else tells you about Scripture and what you believe when you study it yourself.

Answer 6

The Bible isn't an "guidance e book". quite, that's a written record of God's acts in history. appropriate Christian concept holds that God has revealed Himself in 2 techniques: by be conscious and journey. The Bible is the inspired written account of God's redemptive acts. a lot extra effective than a e book of training, the Scriptures tell the story of God, and how we are in a position to advance right into a factor of His tale.

Answer 7

First of all, we need to understand that the Bible is the inspired word of God.

Paul wrote to Timothy: "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work" (2 Timothy 3:16,17). The Bible is the plenary, verbally inspired, infallible Word of God. What do these words mean? The word "inspired" means the Bible came from God, not man. The word "infallible" means the Bible cannot teach error. The word "plenary" means all parts of the Scriptures are inspired. The word “verbal” means the very words (not just the thoughts) were given by God to the writers.

The Bible came either from God or else from man. Peter wrote: "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:20, 21).

Next we read in the Bible that there is only one gospel, one faith. This excludes all other creeds and edicts.

Gal. 1:6-9 There is one gospel and no other. Eph. 4:4-5 There is one faith--system of belief. 1 Cor. 1:10 We are to be of the same mind and judgment.

What kind of God says, "be of the same mind" and composes a Bible that says different things to different people? If we say that God cannot communicate clearly, what are we saying about God? A simple math lesson teaches the principles of addition; all that are in the class are expected to arrive at the same, correct answer. We assume that normally intelligent people would arrive at the same answer if they understood the principles. If someone came up with a wrong answer, we do not assume the book is wrong, but that the person needed further teaching. So it is with the Bible.

The Catholic Church maintains that "the Bible is a dead letter and unable to interpret itself." Yet in the Bible, whether Catholic or not, we read, "The word of God is living and powerful [quick and active], and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" (Hebrews 4:12). That is Heaven’s pronouncement in regard to the matter. Further the Catholic Church asserts, "We do not in anywise presuppose that the books of the New Testament are inspired, but, rather, they are only genuine, authentic documents written by honest men." John, one of the writers of the New Testament, wrote, "Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, ‘Write: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on’ " (Revelation 14:13). That is either an inspired statement or John was dishonest and, in either case, the Catholic Church would be in error.

Finally, there are verses that confirm that the Bible is the final authority. There is no authority in creeds, edicts or traditions of men. The apostles preached ONE gospel, the scriptures.

Listen to the apostle Paul, "I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ. But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ" (Galatians 1:6-12).

We are also told not to add or remove anything from the gospel, which is also telling us it is complete.

In keeping with that statement is this declaration of John’s with its awful consequence, "Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ, does not have God" (II John 9). In closing the Book of God, John said in the last chapter, "For I testify unto everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book: and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book" (Revelation 22:18, 19).

Hence, this very vital conclusion is sustained: the Word has been spoken and confirmed; it is fixed, complete and final; and there is, therefore, absolutely no place or purpose in God’s design for a so-called "divine, infallible apostolate."

God's word is the authority.

“And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak” (John 12:47-50).

Answer 8

People that "argue" about it are wasting their time. People who discuss it will see God working in many different ways.

We all bring our experiences of God to the discussion. And once the discussion is much more open, we can see how God has worked in many different ways.

Matt

Answer 9

the bible is only a means to an end we need Jesus in our lives and to listen to God not men.

Answer 10

It is biblical when it came from the bible. Are you still very young to understand things around you? Think in mature manner in joining this section. a very shameful intelligence.
jtm