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"May the bones of the hands and the bones of the fingers decay and decompose, of him who turns the pages of the book of Daniel, to find out the time of Daniel 9:24-27, and may his memory rot from off the face of the earth forever (Talmudic Law, p. 978, Section 2, Line 28)."

Quoted from: WILL ISRAEL SAVE THE WORLD at www.revelado.org/70weeks.htm

2007-07-17 01:19:41 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I have checked Shas, which is like Talmudic index and looked for all passages containing Daniel. I have spend almost three hours in the research I can honestly conclude that the maker of your website does not understand nor know what a Talmud is. First of all, we Jews do in fact read all the passages of Daniel when they correspond with the reading of the Torah. Second of all, we have a tradition (which is also a law) that states you are not allowed to add or subtract from the Torah. Third of all, the Talmud does not contain curses in it for it only contains laws and commentaries on the laws. Finally, I fail to see the logic behind why the Talmud would disallow us Jews from reading Daniel?

Also, you should be aware that the creator of the website is a Missionary Christian who is trying to sell his religion to all the "infidels." It appears he has added this invented source to convince the Jews who know nothing about their faith to accept Jesus as Savior. This is just another Christian ploy to rub a Jew from his heritage, his religion, his family, and to rob him of his identity. I despise people like that.

2007-07-17 17:19:00 · answer #1 · answered by Teacher 4 · 6 9

Here is the quote that is similar:

"Blasted be18 the bones of those who calculate the end.19 For they would say, since the predetermined time has arrived, and yet he has not come, he will never come."

Talmud Sanhedrin 97b, Soncino edition, p. 659.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_97.html#PARTb

2014-04-21 16:12:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

I realize this is an old question but for anyone else who might stumble across it 1) yes the curse on page 978 is mis referenced 2 ) the curse does occur someone below has quite it blasted be the bones of the one who calculates the end (danile 9 is the only place in the torah that gives any kind of way to CALCULATE) 3rd a mid evil rabbi wrote thr curse that is exactly naming danile 9 ( as far as I know though I have seen it ssid that it came from thr Babylonian talmud I can't verify that ) but what I can verify is I myself am not a Jew and I don't believe in my bones being blasted so I did calculate the years in Daniel 9 .. I looked up all the defended myself and did all the calculations making adjustments for the years having 360 days rather than 365 and what I can tell you is that it comes to April 6th 33 AD.. anone can verify it by going to Nhm 2 and Daniel 9 and taking thr time to look it all up and do the math . It's all right there that's thr year Jesus died by the way

2015-03-23 07:46:45 · answer #3 · answered by Elisha 1 · 1 0

None- whoever wrote that rubbish knows nothing about the Talmud- the Talmud is not referenced in such a manner- it should be Talmud, masechta (section) section name, folio and then a or b for the side of the folio.

On top of that, there is not a single masechat that I know of that has 978 pages- the longest masechtas are around 150 pages- and each one is a new book and the page numbering starts again! Try finding information about Judaismm from Jewish sources- not Christian sites which have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to Judaism!

2007-07-17 01:29:27 · answer #4 · answered by allonyoav 7 · 11 0

There is no tractate in the Talmud that corresponds to this pagination nor does this quote (which sounds like a cross reference book of indeterminate origin, i.e. it may not exist) reference its source.

Doing a quick Google search for this turns up numerous missionary/messianic websites and zero websites on Judaism that may help in determining where this came from.

So, until someone proves otherwise, I'm going with "its made up".

2015-06-02 11:40:07 · answer #5 · answered by BMCR 7 · 0 0

lol, if you can find the verse referenced by "Talmudic Law, p. 978, Section 2, Line 28", then i will pay you a thousand dollars. good luck. i've never even read the talmud, but even i know just by looking at the reference that it is completely fake, and was invented by somebody who had never a talmud in their life, let alone read one.

it seems like your dorky web site has been fabricating make-believe passages to feed to its clueless followers, knowing that you are all probably too lazy to go find an actual talmud and see if that passage actually exists, which it does not.

now you get to wonder what other things that website has made up and lied to you about. i'm guessing its probably a lot. most people who stoop to lying to their followers do it routinely, not rarely.

2007-07-17 15:49:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 4

Talmudic laws contains laws and their interpretations; not curses.

2007-07-17 01:24:08 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 8 0

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