When atheists ask me, "If God created the universe then who created God?"
The atheists are assuming that God is confined to time in the same way that we are. But the Bible and the equations of General Relativity tell us that the entity that brought the universe into existence is not confined in time like we are, or the way that the universe is.
God can move and operate in at least two dimensions of time. In two dimensions of time, time becomes a plane, like a sheet of paper, length and width. In a plane, you can have as many lines as you want and as many directions as you want.
It would be possible for God to dwell on a time line running through a sheet of paper that's infinitely long, and that never crosses or touches the timeline of our universe. As such, God would have no beginning, no end and he would not be created. Sound familiar?
2007-07-16 04:55:53 · 15 answers · asked by Deslok of Gammalon 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
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2007-07-16 05:03:40 · update #1
I'll quote from the book Dark Moon by Percy & Bennett. I think it will best describe God in terms of science and nature working in harmony:
"Firstly, we need some definitions.
Dimensions: of or pertaining to measure.
Hyper: beyond.
Trans: across.
Three-dimensional: 3D our experienced, measurable physical universe.
Hyper-dimensional: hyperD (also referred to as 4D) is that which is outside our experienced three dimensions; but as an effect on our 3D Universe.
Trans-dimensional physics: The combination of hyperD (4D) and 3D working in harmony--both together and with their enviornment.
Putting it this way, TransD physics is also the combination of consciousness and technology working together in order to achieve the required result without damage to the enviornment, whether that be physical, mental or spiritual. This branch of physics is fun and all of us can 'get it' because it involves the way everything works. We need transD physics for space travel--for without it we shall not go any further."
Apply this concept to our everyday lives and we will come to understand the meaning of God.
2007-07-16 07:18:31 · answer #1 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Trouble is, the same applies to the universe. If time began with the beginning of the universe (being part of spacetime, rather than something that the universe exists in), then the origin of the universe was not 'confined to time' either. If the universe was not confined to time then there is no need to invoke a deity who is not confined to time as its creator.
2007-07-16 05:01:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
interesting theory, but still no proof. I agree that mankind tends to bring God down to their own level in order to make the concept of God something they can understand. And I agree that we do the concept a great disservice, but understanding the fact behind the concept is a whole other ball of wax, and frankly, I think we can theorize all we want, but until we experience the fact, we will simply never know for sure.
2007-07-16 05:23:12 · answer #3 · answered by essentiallysolo 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
When Dr. Ross refers to God as "the entity that BROUGHT the Universe into existence", what reason do we have to think he's referring to the CHRISTIAN God? His use of the word "brought" suggests that the Universe ALREADY EXISTED somewhere, and was NOT CREATED, merely MOVED from one location to another.
Does that sound like a CREATOR God to you? It doesn't to me.
2007-07-16 05:13:18 · answer #4 · answered by Champion of Knowledge 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
General relativity doesn't say any such thing about a god or gods; and the bible doesn't say anything about god "existing outside of time and space". That's just a bunch of "ad hoc" speculation declared by fiat in order to explain the conspicuous absence of any divinity within our universe.
2007-07-16 05:00:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
Somehow I doubt General Relativity has anything to do with the Bible. I'm pretty sure it's a mathematical proof, not a scripture. And it ain't talking. Taking things out of context and using them as allegories is really just bad logic.
2007-07-16 04:59:52 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
That's called making something up to continue to believe what you want. I could say unicorns may exist because we haven't explored every square inch of the amazon or that they exist in a dimension we are unable to see. Does that strike you as rational or meaningful?
2007-07-16 05:01:07 · answer #7 · answered by Zen Pirate 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Sorry but I still believe in the big bang and still do not believe in a god. Just because one scientist says so does not convince me.
I need to see ALL and I mean ALL scientists to agree to this claim, to convince me that god has any part in it
2007-07-16 05:01:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Hugh Ross has a great book;
2007-07-16 04:59:48 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Then if god is existing in another time line and not in ours he is not omnipresent which is a basic tenent of the christian religion.
2007-07-16 05:01:18 · answer #10 · answered by darwinsfriend AM 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋