For you Non-Christians....?

Question

If you do NOT believe in God, then may I ask, (politely) why you are always 'dissing' the people that do?? You have your opinion, and we KNOW how the book ends, so are you doing this cause you really ARE interested in learning about God, or are you just trying to make the Believers mad? Cause your remarks don't make me mad, they just make you look foolish. If you don't change your ways and ask God into your life....you'll remember every single question you nastily answered while you are in hell...and it will not be funny whatsoever. You will be tormented forever.

God loves you and He wants you to come to Him right now. He doesn't care what you or your life has been like. He'll take you just as you are!!! He's at the door of your heart, just waiting for you to invite Him in. He won't barge in...He'll wait for you to ask Him in. He'll transform your life. He'll fill the void that's been in your heart that perhaps you've been trying to fill with other things. HE LOVES YOU!!

Can you show me in the bible that hell is not real?? No. Of course I don't send people to hell...God does if they rejected Him while they were alive on earth.

Micha, I agree with you. I'm not offended when this happens, I just don't understand why some people are so nasty about it when someone asks for real help about an issue with God. People jump in with 'there's no God so don't worry.' 'Live your life it's all you have,' etc. I don't throw insults to non christians who ask questions and I just would like to understand why some do this.

OK EVERYBODY...I am truly sorry if I came across the wrong way. I don't want to be rude to anyone whether you believe or not. That's not who I am, and I don't judge you for your beliefs. I'm simply asking why so many of you give mean comments to Christians when they are truly looking for help?? That's my question!!!!!!!

Answer 1

GladimSaved,

I appreciate your attempt - it is beautiful and heartfelt, but as an ex-hardass athiest it likely won't get thru.
My coming to Christ required a life changing experience, a slap in the face if you will.
Athiests complain that too many of us came to be Christians because of a traumatic experience and not through sound reason and logic - it took both for me.
People who love their life and lifestyle that are non-believers
won't change because it means changing their lives.

Answer 2

Poking fun at Xians is easier than shooting dairy cows with a high-powered rifle with scope.
Mum always said: If you're going to be lazy; do it properly.

It's also fun trying to convince god botherers that Invisible Sky Critters don't swoop about; they don't watch you 24/7; there is no need to feel paranoid; there is no need to live in fear of everlasting hell cos it doesn't exist.

You know this psychotic belief in the invisible man is the only delusion psychiatrists and psychologists say you're allowed to have as long as you're not too insane with all the voices and you don't start believing the voices are real and start acting them out.

It's a psychological tightrope y'all are balanced on.

Don't you think it's rather arrogant for you to believe that an entity as all-encompassing as the Omnimax even knows you're alive?
He doesn't know the starving little kids in Darfur are alive - why would he take notice of you.
Do you really think he cares if YOU love him.

A perfect god needs for nothing that's what makes him a god.
Then again a perfect god would have had no use for creating a universe - obviously if he exists he a junior way down the bottom of the ladder if his carrying ons in The Goat Herders' Guide to the Galaxy are any indication.

In all of that badly written book he only called himself a name ONCE. What was it? You won't know so I'll tell you. HE said his name was Jealous.
WTF would you worship a mentally disabled invisible sky critter like that?
It was rhetorical. I don't need an answer.

Every time one of you fundies go on about your friend god and you're living for him and all the other schmaltzy stuff I wonder if you'd still be as attracted to 'him' if he did NOT have the hell threat over your head.
I wonder if you'd still walk the straight and narrow like I do these days without any threats but just cos it's easier to get along with humanity if I obey some laws; most of which are NOT in the Goat Herders' Guide.

Answer 3

I'm not trying to make you mad at all. I'm trying to make you laugh. Respecting people and respecting people's beliefs are two very different things. Beliefs have no feelings. I won't mock your integrity or question your intelligence, I won't say you are a bad person. In fact I don't believe any of those things to be the case. But I will mock your book, I will say that I do not respect your customs and your rules, and that your worldview is unfounded and indeed ridiculous. See the difference?

Also, mocking is just one of the tools I have. I usually apply it when people obviously are taking their beliefs very seriously, and try to convince me they are right by how seriously they are taking their beliefs. Writing "he loves you" in capital letters is indeed such a case. You aren't putting forth any arguments, just claiming we should do as you do over and over again. That's cute, but it should not be taken too seriously. After all, many roads can be taken, and nobody knows for sure which one is right. To make my point I'll leave you with a meditation upon Eris:

GP: Is Eris true?
M2: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

edit: oh, when people are truly looking for help? Well, that's different. Of course in many cases the atheist perspective is as valid an input as any other, but should indeed refrain from mocking in that situation. Sorry, I didn't really get that.

edit2: did you just write "show me in the bible that hell is not real"? Seriously? Uhm, that's like "show me in the Bhagavad Gita that Krishna is not real"...

Answer 4

I don't diss anyone that doesn't diss me first, unless they say something incredibly idiotic and/or dangerous about religion that I cannot ignore.

I constantly get bombarded with insults from other Christians as soon as they find out I'm not a Christian. I get witnessed to, hateful looks, arguments, you name it. And (personally) it's not that I don't think there might be a god or higher power of some sort, I just don't believe in Christianity.

Not to be mean, but to most non-Christians, other Christians look foolish. Why? Because you don't open your minds to ideas of your own, you accept a book of fairy tales as fact, and you reject sense and blindly follow a religion that, frankly, has done more damage in people's lives throughout history than good.

Look, if you're a non-judgmental, caring, joyful Christian, then good, go ahead. That's what you want to believe. I'm even friends with other Christians. But if you're like most Christians I've come in contact with (judgmental, homophobic, closed-minded) then , sorry... you're getting no respect from me.

Answer 5

Quantrill makes an excellent point, you are targeting all non-Christians with your question here, and not all non-Christians are atheists. If this is directed toward atheists, you should simply say so.

I also agree with Rachel in that many of us tend to come across as 'dissing' when we are insulted ourselves.

Honestly, you sound very insulting in asking this question. The simple phrasing of "you Non-Christians" sounds incredibly condescending. Just because you state that you are asking "politely" not mean that you have actually done so because you have failed in posting this question "politely".

I am not insulting, I just hope you can reflect on this very question and see how you come across to others. Not only do you sound condescending but threatening as well, which is no way to get others to see and/or understand your point of view. "You catch more flies with honey" as they say. Reread your question from an outside point of view and see how you have come across here and I think you will answer your own question.

Answer 6

I see, so what you are saying is that I should not voice my opinion about not believing in god because it makes me look foolish? Is that what you are saying? Cause that is what it sounds like to me.

If you want to believe in god or some form of deity go right ahead and do so. But there is no need for you to "convert" us non-believers or non-Christians.

Let me as you this question..
What if god as you think he might be is actually a different type of god?

What if I chose the wrong religion, then what?
Do I get a do over with the other god?

OK now please step off your soap-box and let others speak out.

Answer 7

I don't dis someone elses belief, I maintain that my belief is valid and they are dising my religion. I think it is very pompous for someone to totally disreguard my religion based on their belief that all other religions are wrong!

You contend that the Christian God loves all people, as long as they stop thinking for themselves and just let life happen. There has been more murder in the name of the Christian God than any other. Children are abused by religious leaders because they are taught not to question God or their religious leaders actions. The Christian God has left a book that teaches prejudice, intolerance and all out hatred for people who are different.

If for some strange reason I HAD to change religions I would choose something other than Christianity. It would have to be a religion that would allow me to interact with God/Goddess...

Answer 8

I only dis when dissed first.
Christians are constantly pushing their agenda on me, personally, on a regular basis. I feel I have the right to push back.
And incidentally, I disagree that you could possibly know if a creator would or wouldn't love you. Based on the evidence I see, I don't imagine a god would be particularly fond of humans. Believe what you want, but don't tell me you care when all you seem to want to do is nag at atheists/agnostics/others.



Edit - In my experience, very few of the fundies that post on answers are really looking for help. I see a lot of questions designed to provoke an angry response. I see a lot of Proselytizing. I see a few genuine questions about faith, and most of those welcome a variety of responses, and not just a religious one.

Answer 9

I'm actually a very nice person, and I respect what others believe as much as I respect what I believe myself. If, however, you use your beliefs to belittle and judge me ("If you don't change your ways and ask God into your life....you'll remember every single question you nastily answered while you are in hell..."), I consider it open season on you, and I will get my kicks on your behalf.

Answer 10

God does not exist, never has, never will. And there is no afterlife. And actually saying that isn't dissing the people who believe that there is, it is stating an opinion. If people ask "is there a God" or "what do you think about God", and I say "there isn't one, I think it is a load of rubbish", that is not being disrespectful to the asker. You ask questions, you get answers. Like I ask "what evidence is there of a God" and I get back "erm, no sorry we don't have a single solitary tangible shred but blieve in it anyway"

Answer 11

,They "dis" for the very reason you point out in your question. When you state "For you Non-Christians....?
If you do NOT believe in God, then may I ask, (politely) why you are always 'dissing' the people that do??"

It is the attitude some Christians have that they alone own the concept of God. When Christians stop being so narcissistic in their belief then I believe the attacks will stop.