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if god loves us all why did he create this world, where there is pain and suffering seems rather pointless.

why dnt we all just exist in heaven and have a bit of a laugh.

is it because there is no God, thats the only logical explanation i can come up wit

2007-07-16 01:42:08 · 10 answers · asked by jimmythebullstromboni 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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He created the world. We were ALL meant to be in heaven....but Adam and Eve ruined that for us when Adam ate the forbidden fruit. That was the first sin, and therefore all generations born after that are sinners also (that means EVERYONE is). Sin is not allowed in heaven. As sinners we deserve to spend eternity in heaven. Thankfully we have a God who loves us (yes and you too) so much that He sent His Son Jesus to live on this earth (He did NOT sin), and He died on the cross to be the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. His shed blood covered ALL of our sins. If we choose to accept Him withthe freewill He GAVE us, then we spend eternity in heaven. If we reject Him, we spend it in hell.

The pain and suffering come from satan, as God is a loving, merciful and perfect God. As I said He loved us ALL so much He made the ultimate sacrifice for us.

So your 'logical' explanation is not so logical anymore, huh??!!!

2007-07-16 01:52:41 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

We already experienced the life you're wishing for. Believe it or not, this mortal life is a way for us to learn and master the abilities and talents God himself possesses. This life is a time for us to develop the God-like attributes we possess, as the offspring of God.

We cannot inherit the glories of heaven without proving just what glory we are capable of having, and so we are here in mortality to be tested. God is not a magician that can defy the laws that we are all subjected to. He also must obey and respect those laws, else nothing is real nor could things truly exist.

Pain and suffering, virtue and vice, pleasure and pain all give us experience, and help us perfect ourselves just a little bit more with each experience. We experience these things because God loves us. We wouldn't experience these things if God did not love us.

Sometimes the purposes of life seem to be ironic. Sometimes it can be confusing because it doesn't seems to be going like we feel it should. But if we try to hope for a better life, and try to make it happen, we will see in the end that it was all for our benefit.

2007-07-16 02:01:40 · answer #2 · answered by Atom 4 · 0 0

The reason behind this is that the Devil is a huge adversary of God. Because God gave us free will, the Devil uses that as a weapon to help defeat God. When someone does not believe in God and Christ Jesus, the Devil gains one more member. It's a huge battle that will never be over until Christ comes back. Then all of the Devil's army will be thrown into a pit of fire where they will burn for eternity.

But look at it another way. Without pain and suffering, we would never know compassion.

2007-07-16 01:49:34 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

God loves all unconditionally. God gave us loose will understanding finished properly that anybody individuals might desire to apply that loose will to chop up ourselves from the countless. So why might God provide up loving us if we are merely exercising habitual the loose will that "he" gave to us interior the 1st place. God hopes all us will make a extra useful decision and seek for oneness with God quite than separation even yet it remains our loose will to no longer seek for this oneness. quite we are all extensions of the countless, yet we'd desire to understand that interior of ourselves until now that's a ensue actuality in our beings. additionally there is incredibly little distinction between Christians and Atheists. the two deny God. Atheists deny God exists in any respect at the same time as Christians deny God lives interior of themselves. They try this besides the actuality that Jesus stated that the dominion of God is interior of you.

2016-10-03 22:16:31 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Yes well ..... that wasn't the plan. The plan was that we were created for a purpose. In the angelic conflict that has happend we are to make a very important decision. One that will determine your eternal state. God does not think like man!

Please consider

2007-07-16 01:51:03 · answer #5 · answered by sassinya 6 · 1 0

Satan & 1/3 of the Angels- turned against God-- They lived in perfection & turned their backs on it--they wanted more...
We have the opportunity to fill that void- However we will be tested to prove our worth in the Kingdom - We that live through the trials & tribulation will be more appreciative to live the perfect life-- after living here on this sinful earth!! Wanting nothing to do with sin...

2007-07-16 02:22:37 · answer #6 · answered by darkness breeds 5 · 0 0

The contrary of pain is not pleasure, but comfort.

But a life of comfort is not spiritually fulfilling at all.

In order to progress spiritually, to refine our souls and purify them, we need to overcome the hurdles and suffering of life.

The main source of suffering is at the same time what gives you the most pleasure. For example: your loved ones.

2007-07-16 01:46:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

God didn't create pain and suffering, we did through misuse of our free will.

I love how people make the wrong choices, start wars, etc. etc. of their own free will, then blame God for their own misguided actions. Everyone needs a scapegoat I guess...and its easier to blame God for everything you ever did wrong then to take responsibility for your own actions.

2007-07-16 01:48:34 · answer #8 · answered by wuzzamaddayou 2 · 0 1

I agree with your conclusion, and so do all intelligent people.

2007-07-16 01:45:13 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 5

Well I guess I understand how you might feel that way, but we were not created to have pain and suffering, or to move on to heaven(Isaiah45:18)When God created us he gave all of us the ability to enjoy life to the full and he also provided many things to make the enjoyment a reality also, this shows that his intention was for us to be happy there was no provision for pain or suffering at all.
The Bible assures us that the suffering we see around us is not caused by Jehovah God. For instance, the Christian disciple James wrote: “When under trial, let no one say: ‘I am being tried by God.’ For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone.” (James 1:13) That being so, God could not have caused the numerous hardships plaguing mankind. He does not bring trials upon people to make them fit for life in heaven, nor does he make people suffer for evil deeds they supposedly committed in a past life.—Romans 6:7.
4 In addition, even though many terrible things have been done in the name of God or of Christ, there is nothing in the Bible to suggest that either of them has ever approved of such actions. God and Christ have nothing to do with those who claim to serve them but who cheat and swindle, kill and plunder, and do many other things that cause human suffering. In fact, “the way of the wicked one is something detestable to Jehovah.” God “is far away from the wicked ones.”—Proverbs 15:9, 29.
5 The Bible describes Jehovah as being “very tender in affection and merciful.” (James 5:11) It proclaims that “Jehovah is a lover of justice.” (Psalm 37:28; Isaiah 61:8) He is not vindictive. He compassionately cares for his creatures and gives all of them what is best for their well-being. (Acts 14:16, 17) Jehovah has done that from the very origin of life on the earth.
A PERFECT BEGINNING
6 All of us are accustomed to seeing and feeling pain and suffering. It may therefore be hard to imagine a time without suffering, but that was how things were at the beginning of human history. Even the legends of some nations allude to such a happy start. In Greek mythology, the first of the “Five Ages of Man” was called the “Golden Age.” In it humans lived happy lives, free from toil, pain, and the ravages of old age. The Chinese say that during the reign of the mythological Yellow Emperor (Huang-Ti), people lived in peace, enjoying harmony even with the elements and the wild beasts. Persians, Egyptians, Tibetans, Peruvians, and Mexicans all have legends about a time of happiness and perfection at the beginning of mankind’s history.
7 The myths of the nations merely echo the oldest written record of human history, the Bible. It informs us that God placed the first human pair, Adam and Eve, in a paradise called the garden of Eden and commanded them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it.” (Genesis 1:28) Our first parents enjoyed perfection and had the prospect of seeing the whole earth become a paradise occupied by a perfect human family living in lasting peace and happiness. That was God’s purpose in creating the earth and humankind.—Isaiah 45:18.
A MALICIOUS CHALLENGE
8 To remain in God’s favor, Adam and Eve would have to refrain from eating from “the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.” (Genesis 2:16, 17) If they had obeyed Jehovah’s law, there would have been no suffering to mar human life. By obeying God’s command, they would have demonstrated their love for Jehovah and their loyalty to him. (1 John 5:3) But as we learned in Chapter 6, things did not turn out that way. Urged by Satan, Eve ate fruit from that tree. Later, Adam also partook of the forbidden fruit.
9 Do you see the seriousness of what happened? Satan was attacking Jehovah’s position as the Most High. By saying, “You positively will not die,” the Devil contradicted God’s words, “You will positively die.” Satan’s further words implied that Jehovah was keeping Adam and Eve ignorant of the possibility of becoming like God, thus not needing Him to decide what was good and bad. Satan’s challenge therefore brought into question the right and validity of Jehovah’s position as the Universal Sovereign.—Genesis 2:17; 3:1-6.
10 Satan the Devil also insinuated that people would remain obedient to Jehovah only as long as obeying God was to their advantage. In other words, human integrity was brought into question. Satan charged that no human would voluntarily remain loyal to God. This malicious claim by Satan is clearly revealed in the Bible’s account about Job, a faithful servant of Jehovah who underwent a great test sometime before 1600 B.C.E. When you read the first two chapters of the book of Job, you can gain insight into the reason for human suffering and why God permits it.
11 Job, “a man blameless and upright,” came under Satan’s attack. First, Satan imputed bad motives to Job by raising the question, “Is it for nothing that Job has feared God?” Then, the Devil cunningly maligned both God and Job by charging that Jehovah had bought Job’s loyalty by protecting and blessing him. “But, for a change,” Satan challenged Jehovah, “thrust out your hand, please, and touch everything he has and see whether he will not curse you to your very face.”—Job 1:8-11.
12 Was Job serving Jehovah simply because of all the good that he received from God? Could Job’s integrity stand up under test? In turn, did Jehovah have enough confidence in his servant to allow him to be tested? These questions could be answered if Jehovah would permit Satan to bring upon Job the severest of tests. Job’s faithful course under the test allowed by God, as narrated in the book of Job, proved to be a thorough vindication of Jehovah’s righteousness and man’s integrity.—Job 42:1, 2, 12.
13 What happened in the garden of Eden and to the man Job, however, has a deeper implication. The issues Satan raised involve all mankind, including us today. God’s name was maligned, and his sovereignty was challenged. The uprightness of God’s creation, man, was called into question. These issues had to be settled.
HOW TO SETTLE THE ISSUES
14 For the sake of illustration, let us say that you are a loving parent with several children in a happy family. Suppose one of your neighbors spreads lies, accusing you of being a bad parent. What if the neighbor says that your children do not love you, that they stay with you only because they do not know any better, and that they would leave if someone showed them the way. ‘Preposterous!’ you might say. Yes, but how would you prove it? Some parents might react in rage. Besides creating more problems, such a violent response would lend support to the lies. A satisfying way to deal with such a problem would be to allow opportunity for your accuser to prove his claim and for your children to testify that they sincerely love you.
15 Jehovah is like the loving parent. Adam and Eve may be compared to the children, and Satan fits the role of the lying neighbor. God wisely did not destroy Satan, Adam, and Eve immediately but permitted these wrongdoers to continue living for a while. This allowed our first parents time to start the human family, and it has given the Devil a chance to prove whether his claim was true so that the issues could be settled. From the start, however, God knew that some humans would be loyal to him and would thus prove Satan a liar. How thankful we are that Jehovah has continued to bless and help those who love him!—2 Chronicles 16:9; Proverbs 15:3.
WHAT HAS BEEN PROVED?
16 During nearly all human history, Satan has had a free hand to work out his schemes of domination over mankind. Among other things, he has wielded influence over the political powers and has promoted religions that subtly direct worship to him rather than to Jehovah. Thus the Devil has become “the god of this system of things,” and he is called “the ruler of this world.” (2 Corinthians 4:4; John 12:31) Indeed, “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) Does this mean that Satan has proved his claim that he could draw all mankind away from Jehovah God? Certainly not! While permitting Satan to remain in existence, Jehovah has proceeded to carry out his own purpose. What, then, does the Bible reveal concerning God’s permission of wickedness?
17 Wickedness and suffering are not caused by Jehovah. Since Satan is the ruler of this world and the god of this system of things, he and those on his side are responsible for the present condition of human society and all the misery that mankind has suffered. No one can rightly say that God is the cause of such hardship.—Romans 9:14.
18 Jehovah’s permitting wickedness and suffering has proved that independence from God has not brought about a better world. Undeniably, history has been marked by one disaster after another. The reason for this is that humans have chosen to pursue their own independent course and have shown no real regard for God’s word and will. When Jehovah’s ancient people and their leaders unfaithfully pursued “the popular course” and rejected his word, the results were disastrous. Through his prophet Jeremiah, God told them: “The wise ones have become ashamed. They have become terrified and will be caught. Look! They have rejected the very word of Jehovah, and what wisdom do they have?” (Jeremiah 8:5, 6, 9) Having failed to follow Jehovah’s standards, mankind in general has become like a ship without a rudder, tossed about in a turbulent sea.
19 God’s permission of wickedness and suffering has also proved that Satan has not been able to turn all mankind away from Jehovah. History shows that there have always been individuals who have remained faithful to God no matter what temptations or adversities were brought upon them. Over the centuries, Jehovah’s power has been manifested in behalf of his servants, and his name has been declared in all the earth. (Exodus 9:16; 1 Samuel 12:22) Hebrews chapter 11 tells us about a long line of faithful ones, including Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, and Moses. Hebrews 12:1 calls them ‘a great cloud of witnesses.’ They were examples of unwavering faith in Jehovah. In modern times too, many have given their lives in unbreakable integrity to God. By their faith and love, such individuals prove conclusively that Satan cannot turn all humans against God.
20 Finally, Jehovah’s allowing wickedness and suffering to continue has provided proof that only Jehovah, the Creator, has the ability and the right to rule over mankind for their eternal blessing and happiness. For centuries, mankind has tried many forms of government. But what has been the result? The complex problems and crises facing the nations today are ample evidence that truly, as the Bible points out, “man has dominated man to his injury.” (Ecclesiastes 8:9) Only Jehovah can come to our rescue and fulfill his original purpose. How will he do this, and when?
21 Right after Adam and Eve fell victim to Satan’s scheme, God announced His purpose regarding a means of salvation. This is what Jehovah proclaimed regarding Satan: “I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.” (Genesis 3:15) That proclamation guaranteed that the Devil would not be allowed to do his evil deeds forever. As the King of the Messianic Kingdom, the promised Seed, Jesus Christ, will ‘bruise Satan in the head.’ Yes, “shortly,” Jesus will crush the rebel Satan!—Romans 16:20.
WHAT WILL YOU DO?
22 Knowing the issues involved, on whose side will you stand? Will you prove by your actions that you are a loyal supporter of Jehovah? Since Satan knows that his time is short, he will do all he can to vent his wrath on those who want to keep integrity to God. (Revelation 12:12) But you can look to God for help because “Jehovah knows how to deliver people of godly devotion out of trial.” (2 Peter 2:9) He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, and he will make the way out so that you are able to endure temptations.—1 Corinthians 10:13.
23 Confidently, let us look forward to the time when the King Jesus Christ will take action against Satan and all who follow him. (Revelation 20:1-3) Jesus will do away with all those who share responsibility for the woes and turmoil that mankind has suffered. Until that time, one especially painful form of suffering is the loss of our loved ones in death.

2007-07-16 01:56:07 · answer #10 · answered by I speak Truth 6 · 0 1

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