what do you think about the autism risk connected to the MMR jab ?

Question

Ok, I saw it on the tey today about the MMR jab again.

with the people with the "autism 1 in 100" t shirts... couldnt the choldren with it just have been born with it ? and is just showing signs as they get older?

and isnt the 'risk' ofn autism better than the diseases that the jab protects you from ?

what's your view ?

EDIT: just to say I have had the jab when I was young and I don;t have autism... I thiknk the jab is worth while

Answer 1

I think it is a load of rubbish that children have developed autism because of the MMR jab.
I think that the parents with children that have autism want somebody to blame which is why they are blaming the MMR jab.
Some parents have obviously forgotten just how bad it is for their children to get Measels and Mumps. To me the benfits far outweigh any possible side effects.
My daughter had her MMR jab 6 months and she was a little restless for a few days after it but she certainly had no other side effects.

Answer 2

People say "Oh, these children were born with autism and are just showing signs as they get older". However, I find it strange that these children were developing perfectly normally until the day they were given the jab. As for the suggestion I've heard in some quarters that the parents couldn't - or didn't want to - see the signs of autism, I would say that parents know their children better than anyone and they would've noticed if something was wrong before. Also, I read a few years ago that many allegedly vaccine-damaged children who were tested were found to have the same strain of measles in their bowels as is in the MMR. Coincidence? Personally, I don't think so.

I had the MMR when I was younger and I haven't developed any problems as a consequence. However, every child's different and when it comes to children, there's no such thing as being too careful. That's why I believe that single jabs, spaced a reasonable amount of time (three months, say) apart, should be given as a matter of routine. If they can't be given by default, they should at least be available as an option if parents are concerned.

Answer 3

The MMR jab is a very large combination injection and like most injections contains a small amount of mercury as a suppressant to keep the mmr culture stable. The mercury settles in the gut and is attacked by the child's immune system and is usually destroyed with at most a few bowel problems as the antibodies attempt to destroy it . In a few children the bodies attempt to clear the 'invader' produces a massive amount of antibodies which head off looking for anything 'new' or developing just to keep busy, and sets about destroying it. Unfortunately the developing brain of a 3 year old contains millions of 'new' cells which can be destroyed.
However, Autism was around before the mmr and exists in countries and amongst children who have never had the mmr.
Does it cause Autism? No, but it probably promotes its development (speeds the process rather than exacerbates it) but little more than the potential a tin of tuna would the first time a ASD child eats that. Avoiding the mmr will not prevent Autism

Answer 4

My cousin and I had our MMR jabs in the same week at the same clinic. He has Autism, I don't. There is no evidence to show that it was the MMR jab that caused his Autism, although he was developing perfectly normally up until his jab. This is not evidence that the MMR is dangerous though. Children generally begin to 'show' Autism at the same age as when the MMR jab is issued. It must be upsetting for a parent to suddenly be told their child has Autism, and this can lead to people making rash conclusions.
As to weather the risk of Autism is better than the risk of catching the diseases prevented by MMR I am unsure. You can get single jabs for Mumps, Measles and Rubella, which have never been linked with Autism. Having grown up around my cousin I understand how hard it is to raise and look after a child with Autism - although it is very rewarding - and if a link was ever proven I would rather give my child the single jabs, than run the risk of them developing Autism.

Answer 5

Research has repeatedly shown that thimerosal in vaccines doesn't cause autism. Actually, I find it interesting that "the thimerosal in MMR" is what's reported to cause autism, as MMR never even contained thimerosal. DPT did, the influenza vaccine still does (though there's a thimerosal-free version now).

"Isn't the 'risk' of autism better than the diseases that the jab protects you from?"

As an autistic, I'm certain I'd rather be autistic than dead. I don't believe in the autism-mercury link, and thusly don't believe I'm autistic because of vaccines. I do know from being autistic that I like who I am, and that if a cure were available I wouldn't take it. I couldn't be cured of autism without being changed into an entirely different person. That I have that attitude is a pretty good indicator that I wouldn't rather have died.

Regarding vaccination side effects, one thing I do wonder about is I know autistics have higher rates of abnormal reactions to certain classes of drugs than non-autistics. I wonder if some (but not all) already autistic people may be more likely to display abnormal reactions to vaccinations than non-autistics, just as the same is true for anti-psychotics and SSRIs.

Answer 6

There is absolutely no association between MMR jabs and autism. None of the properly carried out surveys produced any evidence at all. It is also interesting to note that in Denmark where the MMR jab was discontinued some years ago the rate of autism continued to rise which rather makes nonsense of the claims that there is a relationship between the two things. By NOT having the jab parents are putting their children into FAR GREATER danger than they think they are protecting them from.

Answer 7

well, with all the speculation about the mmr jab an autism links it scared me out of letting my kids have it done at 18 months old,i waited until they were a little bit older and they have been fine.the only links made between the 2 that can be slightly linked is that autism manifests itself for diagnosis at around the same time as children have the injection,i would rather have an autistic child than take the chance of it dying as a result of one of the deadly diseases protected against in the mmr jab.

Answer 8

The article first linking the association of autism to the MMR vaccine appeared in the respected journal, Lancet. After publication it was discovered that one of the lead authors was in the employ of attorneys representing children with autism, including several in the case study. This represents a major conflict of interest, and 13 of the authors retracted their statement, and Lancet repudiated the article, saying it regretted the article's publication.

Most younger doctors have never seen a case of measles because of the successful widespread vaccine usage. They, as well as the general public, need to be reminded by those of us from an older generation that measles is a nasty disease. Most of the children who get it are quite ill, and a few die.

Autism is likewise a devastating condition. Is it increasing in incidence or are we expanding the criteria for diagnosis? Is it congenital or acquired. Regardless, medical science must search for a cause.

Most leading medical authorities recommend the MMR vaccine for children.

Answer 9

I have said this repeatedly, stop harassing the parents of autistic kids. If you have ever seen a healthy baby suddenly have a seizure after receiving the shots, you would think differently. I looked back at pictures and videos of my autistic son and see no signs of autism until after the mmr. This doesn't prove mmr causes autism but I strongly believe it was the last straw that broke the camels back. My son reached all developmental milestones on time and had eye contact, smiling, etc. yet he developed autism. There is research indicating a genetic factor to autism. Vaccines certainly can trigger these genes to turn on and resulting in autism. There are other ingredients in the vaccines such as aluminum and formaldehyde that are harmful yet the majority of the public doesn't know about them. Early polio vaccines were contaminated with a virus due to using infected animal cells. The vaccine manufacturers are not telling us how they make the vaccines due to "trade secrets". The reason that we are seeing more adverse reactions is simple. No one has studied the effects of vaccines and genetic mutations on the body. Its possible that the vaccines and pollution have started to cause minor genetic defects and the results are starting to show. We already know exposure to toxins or medications at critical time in a fetus development can cause birth defects. Why are so many people so adamant about the link between vaccines and autism? I dare the government to revise the vaccine schedule to a much slower rate and watch the rates of autism, mental retardation, adhd, sudden infant death syndrome drop. They don't have to admit to any wrong doing like when thimerisol was removed. The results will be more parents will vaccinate their kids without fear and the world will be protected against the devastating effects of infectious disease. The rate of adverse reactions to vaccines is about one percent which is concidentally the rate of autism spectrum disorders. That is a fact, not fiction or junk science as so many ignorant people believe. Please read both sides of the story before passing judgement. There always will be kids born with autism but we have the obligation to protect those who would not have except for the fact that the parents trusted the government and vaccinated their kids. My autistic son is fully vaccinated and I hope to restore him to high functioning adult. I know that I will not erase fully the autistic traits but when my husband and I are gone, who will take care of him in a loving manner. I urge you to write to your congressional representatives and demand a safer vaccination schedule for our children. The parents of kids who are injured deserve better services to treat their children. Unfortunately, many cities across the world lack proper educational program for autistic kids. It will cost more to educate and care for autistic people in the long run than it would in simply in changing the vaccination schedule.
MomWho Knows

Answer 10

i am a pediatric nurse. new to pediatrics, i am shocked at how many parents come to the office expressing concerns about vaccines and the link to autism. i truely feel for the parents that are faced with the challanges, but can't help but wonder "what if...?" so your kid won't be the next bill gates, hilary clinton, or oprah winfre. but what about people who are physically disabled and still are productive, but in their own way. those are the ones that were loved by their families, encouraged to do what they are good at and taught how to deal with a challange rather than to fight it. the siblings growing up watching this fight are being sent the wrong messages. unfortuantely, when polio surfaced, thousands where affected before a vaccine was created to radicate it. they did nothing wrong nor did they deserve to suffer. God has ways of making things happen for a reason and doesn't give us what we can't handle. every child is a blessing, autism, MS, ADHD, no matter how severe or mild the condition may be. instead of playing the blame game, accept the facts, learn how to deal and move on to educate others, and strive for a productive, loving life. thier special ways, skills, and abilities may change the way society looks at the world. remember, we all get old enough to vote and make decisions that can change the world. they too will have their chance. i believe it's all a matter of time. my choice is to vaccinate. better to have only one problem than several. imagine autism and polio and chicken pox at the same time. count your blessings that we have the ablitity to deal with some of the problems, and not be faced with all of them at once...but that's just me!