Something preexisted G-d. That doesn't necessarily mean there is no G-d, right? I think this would be a very poor argument against the existence of G-d, that being the simple fact that G-d came and made order out of Chaos. Does anyone else, like me, understand the Hebrew concept of creation, where in the beginning the world was chaos and G-d came and made order of the chaos?
2007-07-15 18:03:26 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I get my statement from Gen. 1:1 in the orginal Hebrew, which (alliterating) states "In the beginning the world was to-hu-va-va-vo-hu-" which, in Hebrew, is the equivalent of saying "In the beginning the world was "blech'" Which implies the preexistence of the world.
I'm not Christian or Athiest
Thank you Harry Potto guy, you get my point. To me, you prove the necessity of agnosticism, I wonder if you agree.
I dare any of you to re-interpret the original Hebrew of that passage.
2007-07-15 18:25:49 · update #1
The Aneristic Principle is that of APPARENT ORDER; the Eristic Principle is that of APPARENT DISORDER. Both order and disorder are man made concepts and are artificial divisions of PURE CHAOS, which is a level deeper that is the level of distinction making. With our concept making apparatus called "mind" we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us. The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled "reality" and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see "reality" differently. It is only the ideas-about-reality which differ. Real (capital-T True) reality is a level deeper that is the level of concept. We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The ORDER is in the GRID. That is the Aneristic Principle. Western philosophy is traditionally concerned with contrasting one grid with another grid, and amending grids in hopes of finding a perfect one that will account for all reality and will, hence, (say unenlightened westerners) be True. This is illusory; it is what we Erisians call the ANERISTIC ILLUSION. Some grids can be more useful than others, some more beautiful than others, some more pleasant than others, etc., but none can be more True than any other. DISORDER is simply unrelated information viewed through some particular grid. But, like "relation", no-relation is a concept. Male, like female, is an idea about sex. To say that male-ness is "absence of female-ness", or vice versa, is a matter of definition and metaphysically arbitrary. The artificial concept of no-relation is the ERISTIC PRINCIPLE. The belief that "order is true" and disorder is false or somehow wrong, is the Aneristic Illusion. To say the same of disorder, is the ERISTIC ILLUSION. The point is that (little-t) truth is a matter of definition relative to the grid one is using at the moment, and that (capital-T) Truth, metaphysical reality, is irrelevant to grids entirely. Pick a grid, and through it some chaos appears ordered and some appears disordered. Pick another grid, and the same chaos will appear differently ordered and disordered. Reality is the original Rorschach.
2007-07-15 18:08:22 · answer #1 · answered by hairypotto 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
First, it's God not G-d. Secondly, where does it say that God made order out of chaos? What chaos are you talking about? When? Where? The world as we know it, was null and void before creation. There was no chaos because nothing existed yet. Read the first book in the Bible, Genesis and see how things were at that time.
2007-07-15 18:13:07 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
That makes a silly argument just that much sillier. People often argue that the universe had to have been created. If their was something before God,(chaos) then who created that. And if you can believe that something existed prior to God, then why can you not believe that their is no God? Do you believe that chaos created God? There is no God and you know it; you are just afraid to say it, or even think it for that matter.
2007-07-15 18:13:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sister, your understanding IS SO far above the average person, that they cannot even begin to 'hear' what you are saying. BUT I HEAR IT AND PRAISE GOD FOR IT. You are so right. But these carnal minded men will never hear it or allow anyone else to hear it, if they can continue to stop it. But is going to totally over-ride these wicked men of satan and set up his kingdom by his daughters, as he has promised. The work of Jesus Christ TO PUT DOWN THE HIGH FROM THEIR SEATS AND EXALT THE WOMEN (THOSE OF LOW DEGREE). that low degree was MANS DOING, not Gods. How they do hate this truth. But the work of Jesus will yet prevail over this earth. The wickedness of MEN will be the witness against them. The mean way they have always dealt with their HELP MEET.
2016-04-01 06:19:39 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Most of the ancient Pagan religions believed that Deity was Chaos that took form and then split into a mate, when you go waaaaaay back.
- 17 yo Pagan
2007-07-15 18:09:08 · answer #5 · answered by Lady Myrkr 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
God came and made order. Where did he come from? As far as we know there is no place else he could have came from.
You don't really help by complicating the fantasy. It is all nonsense don't bother to make worse nonsense out of it.
Kisses Betty B.
2007-07-15 18:08:46 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Did god actually came and made order of the chaos? When and where did god do that?
2007-07-15 18:08:36 · answer #7 · answered by Don S 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
methinks that makes more sense than saying god came before everything:)
2007-07-15 18:06:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
What does G-d mean ???
2007-07-15 18:08:05 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋