Does anyone have credible debunking of the Loose Change video?

Question

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

We've seen lots of "debunkers" call names. Any chump can do that. Don't get us wrong; orcs LOVE to call names and treat people like garbage. We also hate lazy slugs though, so shut your trap if you can't think with any more sophistication than your average troll!

More fun videos:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1336167662031629480&q=painful+deceptions&total=115&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=9%2F11+mysteries&total=563&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Answer 1

http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=pubs-english&y=2007&m=March&x=20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245

International Information Programs have responded to Loose Change. See above.

Which I'm sure is more credible source of info than couple of barely 20 year old amateur video makers.

Answer 2

Curly...Titanium does not burn like magnesium in hot air.

In a normal atmospheric environment titanium is OK up to 1200 Deg F, above that it scales heavily and may become brittle.

However if you had said that titanium burns like magnesiumin a hot oxygen atmosphere you would have been correct.

If titanium becomes heated in an atmosphere with a 35% or higher Oxygen concentration it will ignite, and once it ignites it only takes a small concentration of Oxygen to keep it burning.

Per TIMET Corp.:
Caution should be exercised in using titanium in high oxygen atmospheres. Under some conditions, it may ignite and burn. J.D. Jackson and Associates reported that ignition cannot be induced even at very high pressure when the oxygen content of the environment was less than 35%.^(35) However, once the reaction has started, it will propagate in atmospheres with much lower oxygen levels than are needed to start it. Steam as a diluent allowed the reaction to proceed at even lower O2 levels. The temperature, oxygen pressure, and concentration limits under which ignition and propagation occur are shown in figures 13 and 14. When a fresh titanium surface is exposed to an oxygen atmosphere, it oxidizes rapidly and exothermically. Rate of oxidation depends on O2 pressure and concentration. When the rate is high enough so that heat is given off faster than it can be conducted away, the surface may begin to melt. The reaction becomes self-sustaining because, above the melting point, the oxides diffuse rapidly into the titanium interior, allowing highly reactive fresh molten titanium to react at the surface.

Answer 3

I think that one of the "experts" that was interviewed for the documentary turned out to be nothing more than a professional con man. This leads to a greater point.

The problem with Loose Change is that, although it has some valid premises, it is, for the most part, shoddily and amateurly done, with shaky justification, and foremost, with the creators determined to find some government conspiracy behind the attacks. All of this makes it a prime target for extremists on the other side of the political spectrum.

I'm not doggedly determined to find a government conspiracy to bring down the World Trade Center. I'm also not on the other extreme, claiming that those who question the 9/11 attacks are "with the terrorists."

One thing remains evident, however. There were questions and issues about the attacks that were either insufficiently addressed, or not addressed at all, in the 9/11 commission report. It is up to us to try to bring conclusion to this, through perfectly valid scientific evidence, verifiable political and intelligence reports, and uncensored government surveillance and media coverage of the events. Only then can we face those who dare wave these perfectly reasoned issues aside as "conspiracy-mongering."

Uninformed and amateur "documentaries" such as Loose Change only serve as cannon fodder for those in power, and who shut their eyes to nothing but one neat explanation.

Answer 4

I saw the first video talking about titanium melting at thousands of degrees being totally destroyed as proof for some conspiracy theory. Idiots dont know that titanium goes up like magnesium when its hot in air.

They had to change it for the next edition.

When they have to change "facts" and find new ones, they aren't searching for the truth.. they are searching for propaganda. Truth means you let the data drive your opinion. Propaganda means you start out with an opinion and keep only ideas that support it.

Gatorbait,
You need to work in a machine shop with it and not read your answers from a book. I have watched titanium lit with a match burn like magnesium in room temperature air. Its all about surface area to volume ratio. Just like aluminum (in thermit) will burn underwater, heated titanium will burn in normal air.