Aren't these verses from the Bible prove that God and Jesus are two different thing?
Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
John 8:54
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mark 12:29
Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me
John 7:16
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:17
NO!
2007-07-15
15:31:08
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james , read what you wrote and then ask yourself "why i am writing this nonsense?"
2007-07-15
15:37:46 ·
update #1
Yes!
There is one God, made up of three persons, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Each equal in power and essence........always in agreement.
When God the Son took on flesh as Jesus Christ, He humbled Himself and submitted to the Father.
In your reference to John 8:54, God the Father is honoring or glorifying Jesus.
In your reference to Mark 12:29, there is acknowledgement that God is one Lord. (each of the 3 persons equal)
In your reference to John 7:16, He is acknowledging that His teaching is of God. (submitting to God the Father while in flesh----still in agreement)
In your reference to Matt 19:17, He is saying that He is that good God. He is not saying that He is not good.
He is not saying that He is not God.
2007-07-15 15:48:50
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answered by Precious and True 3
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There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.
The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is WITHOUT question. In English, you only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).
The Father is the ultimate source or cause of: 1) the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); 2) divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); 3) salvation (John 3:16-17); and 4) Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father INITIATES all of these things.
The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: 1) the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1; Matthew 11:27; John 16:12-15; Revelation 1:1); and 3) salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.
2007-07-15 15:53:42
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answered by Freedom 7
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Different and yet not. Welcome to the "mystery" of Trinitarian theology.
Catholics, myself included, believe that Jesus is/was/ever will be 100% divine and was at the same time 100% human. As a human man, he was limitted by human understanding. The divinity was all there, but he wouldn't be able to express it or even understand it any differently than you or I... it would be almost like straining to hear a sound just a tad too low for your ears. Anyway, all this to day, he understood that he had a very special relationship with God and he chose to call God "Abba."
And if you really want to keep up the biblical quarterbacking, I am sure someone will post verses where Jesus talks about "I am the Father and the Father is me" or something like that.
2007-07-15 15:37:14
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answered by Church Music Girl 6
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The Father, YHWH, is greater than Yahshua. Yahshua, being the firstborn, could SPEAK for the Father, and did the WILL of the Father, therefore the Father and He were ONE. Likewise, if we are doing the will of the Father, then WE are ONE with HIM. What appears to be a contradiction is not a contradiction at all, when you look at the ancient customs, the way YHWH set up the Kingdom from the start. So, because the firstborn is allowed to REPRESENT the Father, knowing the Father's will about all, He could then say He and the Father were EQUAL in that respect.
xianity, because they have rejected the 'jewish'(really, the HEBREW)mindset, don't understand this.
So, YES, Yahshua and YHWH are two different 'things'.
2007-07-15 15:39:24
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answered by witnessnbr1 4
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They are 2 parts of one whole.
Do you question which part of an egg is THE egg? No--it is all the egg. There is the shell, the albumin and the yolk. All are necessary for an egg to BE an egg.
Or how about an apple--peel, pulp, seeds. Do you have philosophical wonderings about which is really the apple?
There is, of course, according to Christian belief, a 3rd part of the whole--the Holy Spirit. Each person of the "Godhead" or the "Trinity" has a special function, just as each part of the egg and apple have specific functions.
God, who created all, loves all, rules all and administers justice. Jesus physically separated himself from God in order to come to earth to purchase for us the pardon from our sin. The Holy Spirit sometimes appears as a physical being (the dove at Jesus' baptism), but is also at God's side to intercede for us. Each is an essential part of a single personality. That is why Christians have devised a word to refer to all 3 at one time--the Holy Trinity. None is holier than the other; they are one.
2007-07-15 15:45:14
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answered by masince1986 6
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The "Jesus as God" part of Christian doctrine did not around come until after the year 100, around the time the Gospel of John was written and Greek religious concepts were being incorporated into the religion.
2007-07-16 22:28:55
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answered by mo mosh 6
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God, the Father is powerful or higher than Jesus Christ according to the bible.
jtm
2007-07-15 15:34:28
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answered by Jesus M 7
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Jesus = God
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Jesus = Son of God
...being God, Jesus can be anything, including his own son...sounds weird, but God can do anything, including what seems impossible...
...also, God wanted us to know that He knows what its like to be a human, so He came to earth and was a human in Jesus...
2007-07-15 15:35:10
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answered by jamestheprophet 6
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God the Father, Jesus Christ (God the Son), and God the Holy Spirit are EQUAL. They are ONE God.
2007-07-15 15:35:37
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answered by Anonymous
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No one knows for sure. Did you meet either of them and ask if they are equal?
2007-07-15 15:34:12
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answered by The Helper 5
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