Scripture help please?!?

Question

Could someone please help me find in the book of Luke where God explains that the death can not hear us and we cant not here them? I’m trying to explain to my friend that Mary (Jesus’ mother) can not hear our prayers. Also in the book of Hebrew’s it says a passage that Jesus prays for us (if I am wrong, please correct me). Could someone please help? Thank you so much in advance.

Be Blessed!

"perky girl"...i'll believe what i want and you do the same. if you dont know the answer...then dont reply.

Answer 1

The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in Heaven for their prayers. Why, then, do many Catholic pray to Mary and/or the saints, or request their prayers? Catholics view Mary and saints as "intercessors" before God. They believe that a saint, who is glorified in Heaven, has more "direct access" to God than we do. Therefore, if a saint delivers a prayer to God, it is more effective than us praying to God directly. This concept is blatantly unbiblical. Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we, believers here on earth, can "...approach the throne of grace with confidence..."

1 Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." There is no one else that can mediate with God for us. If Jesus is the ONLY mediator, that indicates Mary and saints cannot be mediators. They cannot mediate our prayer requests to God. Further, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ Himself is interceding for us before the Father, "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them" (Hebrews 7:25). With Jesus Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints to intercede for us? Who would God listen to more closely than His Son? Romans 8:26-27 describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us. With the 2nd and 3rd members of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in Heaven, what possible need could there be to have Mary or the saints interceding for us?

Catholics argue that praying to Mary and the saints is no different than asking someone here on earth to pray for you. Let us examine that claim. (1) The Apostle Paul asks other Christians to pray for him in Ephesians 6:19. Many Scriptures describe believers praying for one another (2 Corinthians 1:11; Ephesians 1:16; Philippians 1:19; 2 Timothy 1:3). The Bible nowhere mentions anyone asking for someone in Heaven to pray for them. The Bible nowhere describes anyone in Heaven praying for anyone on earth. (2) The Bible gives absolutely no indication that Mary or the saints can hear our prayers. Mary and the saints are not omniscient. Even glorified in Heaven, they are still finite beings with limitations. How could they possibly hear the prayers of millions of people? Whenever the Bible mentions praying to or speaking with the dead, it is in the context of sorcery, witchcraft, necromancy, and divination - activities the Bible strongly condemns (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-13). The one instance when a "saint" is spoken to, Samuel in 1 Samuel 28:7-19, Samuel was not exactly happy to be disturbed. It is plainly clear that praying to Mary or the saints is completely different from asking someone here on earth to pray for you. One has a strong Biblical basis, the other has no Biblical basis whatsoever.

God does not answer prayers based on who is praying. God answers prayers based on whether they are asked according to His will (1 John 5:14-15). There is absolutely no basis or need to pray to anyone other than God alone. There is no basis for asking those who are in Heaven to pray for us. Only God can hear our prayers. Only God can answer our prayers. No one in Heaven has any greater access to God's throne that we do through prayer (Hebrews 4:16).

Recommended Resource: The Gospel According to Rome: Comparing Catholic Tradition and The Word of God by James McCarthy.

Answer 2

Well that is rather sad - though I cannot find the verse in Luke for you. In know in Ecclesiastes that it says that the dead know nothing. What makes that one even sadder is that I have met Christians who believe this - that they will not know anything or be aware of anything.

Jesus, for Christians, is the mediator between themselves and G-d. They believe that sin created a rift between G-d and humanity and only Jesus as a sacrifice could repair this rift. They could not approach G-d directly on their own, even after this. But now they have someone to interceed for them.

So, no, it's not praying that you are thinking of. Not the same thing as what a human does.

And, being a former Catholic, I can tell you that you should just leave your friend alone. I was so harrassed by people not aware of Catholic beliefs or that they were based on the bible that I finally stopped telling people that I was Catholic. She doesn't need to hear it. If you are really curious as to why Catholics do the things they do poke around the website http://www.newadvent.com At least learn why she does what she does before you start telling her she is wrong.

Answer 3

here are some passages:

Psalm 6:5 (King James Version)
5For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

Psalm 115:17 (King James Version)
17The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.

(This passage is very clear)
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 (King James Version)
5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

6Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

Is Mary omnipotent like God? Can she hear ALL the prayers of the RC's at once? No. She was a sinner just like us (she called God her savior, from what did she need saving?) Her being sinless and taken up into heaven is not biblical and is a man made tradition. Yes, she was blessed by God but that's it.
The book of revelation speaks of God's throne and those around him. Jesus was there, the 12 apostles and Mary is not mentioned. If she is "queen of heaven" would she be mentioned? And since Jesus wanted St. John to care for her wouldn't he mention about her more in the many books he wrote after Jesus' ascension?
God bless,
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Answer 4

You might be thinking of Jesus portrayal of the afterlife when he spoke of the death of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31

Answer 5

Ephesians 6:18 (Whole Chapter)
"And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints. ."
i couldnt find the exact verse in luke, but right here it says pray FOR not TO the saints.

Answer 6

just google JESUS' parable of Lazareth and the rich man
every day Lazareth would sit at the gates and beg for food
every day the rich man ignored him
these two die
separated by the divide no one cross, so vast the divide that no one can cross
in hell the rich man begs Lazareth, in the bosom of Abraham drinking water, to send but a single drop of water
and someone says that That will never happen
HE has Risen

Answer 7

the dead are waiting in the grave for the resurrection.
During Christs 1000 year rein of peace.
We should only pray to our father prayer.

(John 5:28-29) 28 Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.

Answer 8

i take it your friend is catholic or something. the Bible says to do all things in his name. and that we shall do all things in his name. i believe there is even a verse that shows us how to pray. Jesus showed us as well how to pray. he was here not just to die for our sins like he did. but also to show us how we are to live.

here are some versus that might help though

Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

does not say mary anyweres or to pray to mary anyweres

Answer 9

Sorry, your wrong about the dead hearing us. There is plenty in the Bible besides that one verse, on this subject. So don't misinterpret something to prove your point. Even if your point is correct.
You have to know what dead means. To rightly divide the Word of Truth, in this instance.

Answer 10

all are asleep until the day of judgment.....Mary, Joesph, etc. are asleep...only Christ hears our prayers...